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Are you a mariner?...(Tom M)
« on: Dec 31st, 2003, 4:16pm »
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Can anyone tell me what the hell the name of this is?
 
I know it came from some kind of ship that was dumping live ammo 12 miles out of Boston harbor just after WW2.
 
The gears on the cart go in either side of the pedastil...I guess to control foward/reverse and maybe speed.
 
Can anyone name it...I cant...weve all seen them in movies.
 

 
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Sorry, from the top of the pedasti two levers would stick straight up and one would have to push them forward and pull then back to operate it.
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 4:44pm »
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I'm not nautical, but in layman's terms, is that the throttle or shifter?
 
 
From this page, it seems to be a throttle (but theirs is modern/digital).  
http://www.kmss.no/C125697E0025A0C0/WebHomepage/$first?OpenDocument& framemain=/www/01/wProd.nsf/AllWeb/15483A161F520307C1256AD1002D22EF?OpenDocument
 
yeah, it seems like a throttle:
http://www.airdmhor.gen.nz/blancmange/sjmanual/Controls/Throttle/SJThrot .html
oh, wait, that's for a space ship. Damn sci-fi freaks. Who let them on the internet??
 
Avast, methinks its a bridge "command unit"  (see bottom picture)
http://www.amacoil.com/html/art_15.htm
 
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 4:57pm »
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LOL....try WW2 or after Grin
 
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 5:45pm »
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I can't name it but from a few old boats I've been on the left lever is the throttle and the right the transmission. ?
 
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 6:08pm »
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Bingo Flo,
 
Makes sence to me.
 
A dude brought it into my shop to have cleaned (Brass) and welded....seems he got it on a 200 foot dive 8 miles from where the Navy said it was. He had to dive it again and bring up proof before the Navy would believe it was their ship.......Go figure!
 
Anyways, he had short bucks so he got short shine (Me?, I would have kept the sea damage to display in my house.....but you dont see that cause it was sand blasted when I got it)
 
 

 

 
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 6:11pm »
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on Dec 31st, 2003, 5:45pm, forgetfulnot wrote:
I can't name it but from a few old boats I've been on the left lever is the throttle and the right the transmission. ?Lee

 
Damn straight Lee, thats what I was trying to say....one lever for speed and the othe for direction
 
What the hell do they call it......LOL Grin
 
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 6:28pm »
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Its the "FullSpeedAhead-AyeAyeSir!"
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 6:33pm »
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jonny,
 
Being the x-squid that I was. I think I have your answer.
 
It's called an EOT - Engine Order Telegraph. Your missing parts so I'm not positive. I used to work in the hole (engineroom). They would call us for throttle positions from the bridge.
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 7:03pm »
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Im sorry......60 something years at 200 feet dont give me much.
 
But I appreciate you dudes helping me out.
 
Can you feel the love?
 
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 7:18pm »
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Blue Meanie... another squid amongst the ranks?
 
So you were a snipe, eh?  I was a brown shoe.  Spent most of my time on the flight deck of the Indy.
 
If I'm right, this device did nothing 'mechanical' as in making the ship move.  It simply advised the crew in the engine room to go forward/backwards and how fast.
 
Nice piece.  Would love to have one out by the pool as a conversation piece.
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 7:38pm »
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on Dec 31st, 2003, 7:18pm, Gofishgriff wrote:
If I'm right, this device did nothing 'mechanical' as in making the ship move.  It simply advised the crew in the engine room to go forward/backwards and how fast.

 
And it makes that "Ching-ching" noise right?....Like gears?.....or chains
 
Im due for a nappy (FU Don.....LOL Grin)
 
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on Dec 31st, 2003, 7:18pm, Gofishgriff wrote:
If I'm right, this device did nothing 'mechanical' as in making the ship move.  It simply advised the crew in the engine room to go forward/backwards and how fast.

 
Yes gofish. Snipe I was. The EOT would just let us know where to put the throttle on the engines.
 
It would also make noise (a bell sound) jonny.
 
My brother-in-law was on the flight deck of the Indy. Aviation fuels.
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« Reply #12 on: Jan 1st, 2004, 12:27pm »
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Looks like one of them thingy-ma-bobs they had on the movie Titanic.. when they were tryin to move the ship real fast to not hit the iceburg - is that what you all are talking about???    
The thingy they cranked??  Had a wheel tho.......  
 
am i helpin??
 
didn't think so..............
 
 
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« Reply #13 on: Jan 1st, 2004, 1:10pm »
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Woobie!!!
 
You got it babe....thats what it is Grin
 
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« Reply #14 on: Jan 1st, 2004, 2:59pm »
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Blue Meanie is correct. It's a EOT.
Engine Order Telegraph. The handle was moved to send orders for engine speed to the engine room. In the engine room was an answering telegraph that was moved to reply to the tower or bridge that the order was received. It did not control the engine speed. If the EOT has 1 handle the ship had one engine and if the EOT has 2 handles, one on each side or face, the ship had 2 engines. Ching-ching
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« Reply #15 on: Jan 1st, 2004, 4:50pm »
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Damn thing has some real parts value Jonny. Nautical shit is pretty popular:
 
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=Engine+Telegraph&ht=1 &sosortproperty=1&from=R10&BasicSearch=
 
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« Reply #16 on: Jan 1st, 2004, 5:53pm »
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Brad said it's onea them deals the captian or who ever in the bridge that's driven 'cranks' ta let the engine room know what speed or direction.......what do we win if were rite Pam ?  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: Jan 1st, 2004, 6:45pm »
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Looks like a Lithium dispenser to me...
 Grin
 
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on Jan 1st, 2004, 6:45pm, Irma wrote:
Looks like a Lithium dispenser to me...
 Grin
 
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LMMFAO.....I wish!!! Grin
 
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« Reply #19 on: Jan 2nd, 2004, 12:35pm »
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It's a dead ringer for a engine room telegraph,that you see on a few WW2 tubs that are still working in Alaska.
 
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« Reply #20 on: Jan 3rd, 2004, 5:33pm »
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Don't know the name, but as others have said
you signal the engine room for more turns. ( rpm )
 
Those ships had pitch adjusted wheels, The numbers
selected was in reference to the pitch in the prob.
 
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« Reply #21 on: Jan 5th, 2004, 6:29am »
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It is an EOT.  It does control the speed and direction of the ship, but only indirectly.  It sends the orders to the engine room, the engine room then responds by moving their levers (they have another one in the engine room)to the same position, which tells the bridge that their orders have been received, and understood.  The enginemen then go to the actual controls that govern the speed and direction and do what they have to do.
 
As Charlie said, they are worth a fair amount of money.  VERY collectable.
 
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« Reply #22 on: Jan 5th, 2004, 8:55am »
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Dam--sorry jonny. I missed this thread. I looks like the control on the bridge that sends the signal down to the engine room for throttle and motion (ahead/astern). [quoate]Looks like one of them thingy-ma-bobs they had on the movie Titanic.. [/quote] Bingo!
Another ex-snipe here....shallow water sailor snipe, that is.
 
BTW--the value of it will drop dramtically if you "fix"it.
 
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« Reply #23 on: Jan 15th, 2004, 6:56pm »
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Am an ex-ICman and yes as has been stated is an EOT but is missing a lot of parts. I used to work on that equipment and it is still used on US Navy ships (just a little updated)
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« Reply #24 on: Jan 15th, 2004, 7:07pm »
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Thanks for that CCTV dude,
 
It was brought up from 250 ft down, was an ammo ship that blew up off cape cod that was dumping old ammo into the sea after WW2 so im told.
 
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