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Nanook_of_Inuvik
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Finally understand cause of CH
« on: Aug 30th, 2004, 1:20am » |
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I've been suffering for 4 horrible years.
Fellow CHeads, I want you to do an experiment for me:
Try to eliminate any foods with preservative "Disodium Phosphate", "Disodium Calcium EDTA", or "Disodium Inosinate" from your diets. You'll find it in just about everything including cereal, most kinds of sauces, salad dressings and preserved meats.
This chemical variant of Sodium (Na+2) interacts with neurolytic agents in your synaptic clefts of your nerves in the hypothalamas, which causes the Clusters.
It takes an average of 2-3 hours to be absorbed into your blood stream, which is why it took so long for me to determine cause of my CH, and why nobody else has been able to either. Allergies react fairly quickly, this stuff takes so long that it is discounted as a cause.
THE GOOD NEWS: Similar to the WaterX3 treatment, which flushes the Disodium, there is an unbelievably simple cure. Besides avoiding any foods that contain the stuff, which I do religiously at restaurants and at the grocery store, you can drink Gatorade.
By following this regimen, I've been able to get control of my Cluster Headaches.
Please don't discount the simplicity of this cure. Try it, and let me know if you have any success.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #1 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 1:33am » |
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Oh god... You're gonna get your ass handed to you. Just a fair warning...
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #2 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 1:37am » |
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Try it for 2 days. I have never felt such a relief to be alive as having some modicum of control over these out rageously painful headaches.
I describe mine as "giving birth to a porcupine backwards through my eyeball"
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #3 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 1:41am » |
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Personally, I'm not in cycle right now...
But after 18 yrs of at one time or another quitting EVERYTHING to try to find relief and coming to the conclusion that my CH does not have to do with anything that I intake, I can't help but laugh.
If indeed you do have clusters and indeed this WAS the culprit... Congratulations!
But that's just fuckin silly.
Seriously...
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #4 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 1:47am » |
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Humor me, go to your fridge and cupboards right now and look at ingriedients of a wide variety of foods.
The science and anatomy lessons have been toned down to protect the weak of mind, but I could get into it....
Prove me wrong, prove me a liar.
Disodium is in EVERYTHING. Its insidiuos nature is its success in slipping past our desperate CH radars.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #5 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 2:53am » |
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on Aug 30th, 2004, 1:20am, Nanook_of_Inuvik wrote:| You'll find it in just about everything including cereal, most kinds of sauces, salad dressings and preserved meats. |
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If it is in everyting..what am I supposed to eat? This isn't just a help for clusters, its a miracle diet too! I am finally going to get rid of the HA's and all that unwanted fat.
Hey, if it worked for you...great. Congratulations.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #6 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 4:10am » |
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2 days huh?
What would you say to someone who has fasted for let's say 4 days, and still gets hit?
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #7 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 4:24am » |
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Glad it worked for you hun - congratulations.
I wont be trying it on marc though - he has lost over 2 stones since the CH started from throwing up in attacks. Im hardly going to stop him eating everything am i!
But i am intriqued - what did you manage to eat if these thingy's are in everything? 
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #8 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 5:06am » |
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on Aug 30th, 2004, 1:47am, Nanook_of_Inuvik wrote:The science and anatomy lessons have been toned down to protect the weak of mind, but I could get into it....
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What do you mean by this?
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #9 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 6:51am » |
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Glad your tension headaches have eased up.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #10 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 6:57am » |
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I'm still waiting for the punch line.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #11 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 9:57am » |
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i have been eating since i was a child no
HA TILL 20YRS old
I HAD A BAD ONE ALL NIGHT NO FK SLEEP k8 or 9
IHAVE BEEN EATING CEREL FOR THE LAST HR
AND I FEEL BETTER thats odd i like rasin bran
so i used nothing but cerel and eased off to k5
{finely} what kind do you eat capn crunch
wacky wheaties i have to know
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #12 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 10:09am » |
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Hey Nanook - I think you're our first poster EVER from that far north.
Please feel free to visit us at OUCH Canada - we've got a gal moving to Whitehorse in the near future so that will make 2 of you Canadian clusterheads that we know of in the Territories.
Now...hate to burst your bubble, and while I think your diet is very wise and probably can make a difference in how your body reacts to 'cluster triggers (for want of a better word)' - there has been extensive research into the cause of cluster by Dr. Goadsby of the UK. It's been determined that the hypothalmus is different in clusterheads compared to non-clusterheads. That's what they're thinking to be the cause of cluster.
Tell me something...have you been diagnosed to have cluster? You say you've been suffering for 4 years. Every day? Or did you have pain free periods in those 4 years? How long does each headache last? What meds have you tried?
Again, please feel free to drop in on us Canadian cluster folk at http://www.clusterheadaches.ca
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #13 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 12:52pm » |
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gatorade ??? i drink that stuff by the gallon i should have no ch ever. But i get hit just like everyone else.
No need to tone it down for us here.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #14 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 1:07pm » |
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on Aug 30th, 2004, 1:47am, Nanook_of_Inuvik wrote:
The science and anatomy lessons have been toned down to protect the weak of mind, but I could get into it....
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Bubba and Junior and me would like ta here bout yo gatorade theory. Please type slow. We don't read too fast.
That was a hellava way to introduce yourself. Care to back up and start over?
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #15 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 1:14pm » |
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What a dumbass!!
Im being nice
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #16 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 1:17pm » |
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on Aug 30th, 2004, 1:14pm, Jonny wrote:What a dumbass!!
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #17 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 1:51pm » |
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PUNCH LINE:
Hey Nanook...
Have you ever tried sleeping standing on your head after eating ground up chicken feet mixed with diesel fuel and followed by a cat shit and ammonia rub on the head?
It worked for me.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #18 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 3:05pm » |
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After many specialist visits, x-rays and a CAT scan, I was finally diagnosed with Cluster Headaches. It took me 3 years to figure out what ingriedient in food was triggering them, or even to make the connection at all.
There is a 3 hour delay between consuming the food and the trigger.
By avoiding foods with "Disodium anything" I have been able to live relatively CH free, and if any disodium gets under my radar, Gatorade quells the attack within 15 minutes.
Look at your ingredient lists. Prove me wrong.
I know the pain that you people feel. I want to live drug-free and CH free. I want to empower you all as well.
Please don't post replies until you investigate your ingredient lists from food in your cupboards.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #19 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 3:10pm » |
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DING DING DING
Round 2......
Place your bets folks....how many rounds?
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #20 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 3:22pm » |
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on Aug 30th, 2004, 3:05pm, Nanook_of_Inuvik wrote:After many specialist visits, x-rays and a CAT scan, I was finally diagnosed with Cluster Headaches. It took me 3 years to figure out what ingriedient in food was triggering them, or even to make the connection at all.
There is a 3 hour delay between consuming the food and the trigger.
By avoiding foods with "Disodium anything" I have been able to live relatively CH free, and if any disodium gets under my radar, Gatorade quells the attack within 15 minutes.
Look at your ingredient lists. Prove me wrong.
I know the pain that you people feel. I want to live drug-free and CH free. I want to empower you all as well.
Please don't post replies until you investigate your ingredient lists from food in your cupboards.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #21 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 3:27pm » |
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In our house the dining room table is for decoration and only there as a plant stand and the stove top is a resting place for the Mr.Coffee maker. The cupboards are for storing old hot rod magazines.
The wife and I eat 98% of our meals in restaurants. The other 2 percent are at fast food joints. I don't think the people in the kitchen(s) would be happy if we were to inspect the cupboards.
Now what? Should we order Gatorade with every meal?
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You also posted your theory on the Medications, Treatments, Therapies board. Please go there and read Ueli's reply and prove him wrong.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #22 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 3:28pm » |
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funny, I quit eating altogether, and still WHAMMY!
Maybe it's NOT the food after all.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #23 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 3:50pm » |
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If every cure worked for everybody, then we would be able to shut this website down.
My cure may not work for everybody, especially not loud-mouth jerks like several of the American responses, but it may work for a few of us.
I decided I didn't want to take imitrix for the rest of my life, now I'm free.
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Re: Finally understand cause of CH
« Reply #24 on: Aug 30th, 2004, 4:06pm » |
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I eat and drink the same way every single day of every single year.
I get CH every spring for about 6 weeks and every fall for about 6 weeks. I sometimes get a couple in between.
How can you explain your theory when I don't ever make any major changes to my diet yet you are calling ingesting disodium anything the "CAUSE" of CH???
BTW:Jerk is not the worst thing I've been called. Troll would be worse.
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