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A small measure of hope
« on: Jun 6th, 2004, 9:40am »
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After a 3 year remission my CH returned in full glory 4 days ago. Saturday I went to the emergency room to get some meds until I get to the neuro. Iwas prepared to be removed by security if they failed to treat me properly for CH and NOT MIGRAINE.
 
Enter the ER Doc. Whats the problem?
CH
What are your symptoms?
I give them.
 
The ER doc orders a shot of imitrex and 40 MG of prednisone. He suggest I get some sleep while I am there.
 
The nurse comes in looking baffled. Why?
 
The doc also ordered administration of oxygen with a non rebreather mask at a flow rate of 15. Nurse never heard of that for MIGRAINE. She got a quick education.
 
I left there with an Rx for 20 doses of imitrex. Insurance covered all of them. No questions asked.
 
There is hope. In 26 years this is the first CH educated ER Doc I have encountered. He also made an interesting and candid remark when I suggested that all the others wanted to administer narcs for the pain.  
 
Simple he says. Th ERs are busy and they just want to get you out of there.
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 6th, 2004, 10:42am »
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Don so sorry they are back. I am glad you lucked up on a Educated Doctor. Aso glad insurance covered the imitrex!
 
Hope this cycle is short ! Glad you have some meds to get ya through! We are here if you need us.
 
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 6th, 2004, 10:48am »
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THERE IS A GOD!!!!
 
I hope that they leave you again and lets just hope that there are soon tobe more Docs out there who learn about these!!
 
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 6th, 2004, 11:09am »
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The message here is simple.
 
Go in educated. Let them know you are educated. Stand your ground and dont let them mistreat you. Educate them.
 
This time I was fortunate. I was prepared for battle but there wasn't one.
 
Slow by slow, inch by inch, doc by doc, nurse by nurse.
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Re: A small measure of hope
« Reply #4 on: Jun 6th, 2004, 11:17am »
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on Jun 6th, 2004, 11:09am, don wrote:
The message here is simple.
 
Go in educated. Let them know you are educated. Stand your ground and dont let them mistreat you. Educate them.
 
This time I was fortunate. I was prepared for battle but there wasn't one.
 
Slow by slow, inch by inch, doc by doc, nurse by nurse.

 
Glad you had a good ER experience, Don.  Whenever I have to go in for whatever reason, I make it pretty clear to them the knowledge I have about my condition.  They usually give me more credit, then.  A shame it has to be that way, but it does.
 
I'm working on educating my fellow nursing students bit by bit.  Wink
 
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 6th, 2004, 11:38am »
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Good news Don. You have some really good insurance it looks like. Hope your cycle ends soon for you.
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 6th, 2004, 2:38pm »
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Your lucky they didnt handcuff you and drag you to the monkey cage at the Franklin park zoo you fucking animal.
 
Be-gone you troll!!!
 
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 6th, 2004, 3:26pm »
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on Jun 6th, 2004, 9:40am, don wrote:

I left there with an Rx for 20 doses of imitrex. Insurance covered all of them. No questions asked.

What a lucky SOB !
 
good luck
 
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 6th, 2004, 3:29pm »
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Hi Don
Sorry you are in cycle again
 
 Kiss
 
That's it
 
Love
 
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« Reply #9 on: Jun 6th, 2004, 7:01pm »
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Your lucky they didnt handcuff you and drag you to the monkey cage at the Franklin park zoo you fucking animal.  

 
The gorillas are scared. Very scared.
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 6th, 2004, 8:14pm »
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Sorry to hear it's back Don. Hoping it's a short easy cycle for you.
 
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 7th, 2004, 2:42pm »
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Thanks Jim, me to.
 
My supervisor has mentioned something about a public castration if I fail to request a  
"reasonable accomodation" should I require one.
 
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 7th, 2004, 3:42pm »
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Damn sorry they're back Don...... Angry, and I hope this is a really short cycle.  That's great about the trex too.
 
Hate the reason, but I'm glad to see you back.
 
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 8th, 2004, 2:23pm »
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Glad you're back Don, sorry about the head, but that's the life we lead...
 
Good thing on the ER treatmen, we will someday be treated, like people at ALL ERs
 
I wonder however, when I read statements such as the ones found on the National Headache Foundation website on:
 
"The Emergency Room Guide  
to Distinguishing the Legitimate Headache Sufferer from the Drug Seeking Patient"
 
 
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Patient keys to drug abuse:  
 
• Patient makes frequent visits to the Emergency Room.
• Patient states multiple allergies to non-narcotic interventions.
Patient has extensive knowledge of drug action.
Patient requests specific medications and dosage.
• Patient has multiple prescriptions for analgesic medications.
• Patient requests large number of pills and prescription refills.
• Patient has unusual, irrational stories.
Patient's pain level is inconsistent with drug requirement.  
Patient has multiple doctors and/or multiple treatment sites.
• Patient is using increased amount of alcohol.
• Patient does not make provision for follow-up care.
• Patient's symptoms do not fit a diagnostic pattern of headache

 
Now, what do they consider a legitimate patient?
 
See below:
 
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• Patient has doctor who can confirm diagnosis and give reliable patient information.  
• Patient's medical history is consistent with diagnosis of headache.
• Patient has had prior diagnostic work-up.
• Patient is non-demanding regarding medication necessities.
• Patient is deemed reliable by Emergency Staff

 
Not a bad reminder, get your doctor to fill these two forms
 
http://www.headaches.org/professional/educationresources/PDF/physiciancl ustererform.pdf
 
and
 
http://www.headaches.org/professional/educationresources/PDF/patientclus tererform.pdf
 
 
Ozzy
 
PS, Full text of the ER protocol, can be found here:
 
http://www.headaches.org/professional/educationresources/erprotocol.html
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 14th, 2004, 3:15pm »
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I have a question....if you go to the emergency room with a CH, what do they give you?  They normally give me Demerol and Visteril.  I haven't been formally educated about what I should be receiving at the ER since I suffer from CH.
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Re: A small measure of hope
« Reply #15 on: Jun 14th, 2004, 3:27pm »
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Everytime I've gone to the er they give me a big fucking bill! And that's about it... Angry
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 14th, 2004, 3:29pm »
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I haven't been formally educated about what I should be receiving at the ER since I suffer from CH.  

 
Well, whats affective for you to abort? Thats what you should be treated with. They come near me with the demerol and they have a fight on their hands.
 
Tell THEM whats effective for YOU.
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« Reply #17 on: Jun 14th, 2004, 3:41pm »
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Well, so much for this particular trait of a legitimate patient.
 
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• Patient is non-demanding regarding medication necessities.

 
I have never gone to the ER for an attack.  I keep saying I never will.  If I do, it's not going to be pretty.  I have this bad habit of speaking my mind.
 
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 14th, 2004, 4:08pm »
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I believe they mean non-demanding regarding narcotics
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