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« Reply #1 on: Nov 28th, 2003, 10:36pm » |
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"The Taliban was cracking down on poppy production in the year before the U.S. military drove the movement out of office in late 2001 in response to its friendship and cooperation with the al Qaeda organization of Osama bin Laden. "
Laughing my mother fucking ass off!!!!
I had to type that out...if you believe that you are an idiot....LMAO 
Christ!!!
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 28th, 2003, 10:44pm » |
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Quote:"The Taliban was cracking down on poppy production in the year before the U.S. military drove the movement out of office in late 2001 in response to its friendship and cooperation with the al Qaeda organization of Osama bin Laden. "
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Believe it jonny, it really did happen dude.
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Re: George Bush at his best
« Reply #3 on: Nov 28th, 2003, 11:01pm » |
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Gee what is your point fubar? we should have left the tallies in power and let them help osama or what? who the hell cares? what you dont hear is that much of those poppies are used for pharmisutical morphine that is used in hospitals. let me ask would you rather have pretty flowers growing in Afganistan of terrorists. CNN the clinton news network, slanting again i'd say.
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 28th, 2003, 11:17pm » |
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If you can't see the point by now, there is really no future in further discussion.
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 28th, 2003, 11:54pm » |
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Quote:| Opium production complicates the task of restoring central government authority in Afghanistan because it enables the warlords to run small armies and gives them an extra financial incentive to retain their autonomy. |
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Not to mention the fact that half the fucking country is nodding out!
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 1:34am » |
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We should do to sleep now!
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 3:03am » |
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forgetfullnot flowers or terrorists which do you want in afganistan? you didnt answer. are you saying the world would be a better place if osama wasnt hiding in a cave and the taliban was still in power? this is the impression i get from you. would you care to say otherwise?????
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 3:45am » |
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Fubar? 
Hope that was just an error
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Re: George Bush at his best
« Reply #9 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 4:46am » |
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Screw the poppies. Get bin Laden first.
George decided that it's better copy to go for Saddam.....who they can't get either. Hope they do. It's costing us more than money.
Beats me why George and his bizarre handlers can't keep their eyes on the ball.
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Bullshit of the first order. 19th Century Fox "News" wrote the book on bias reporting. Only a network that isn't "Fair and Balanced" has to say so.
Opiates are pretty damn useful. Get the bad guys first, then waste time on the poppies.
Jeesh!
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 7:48am » |
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Screw it I say...poppies for everyone!!!!!heh heh heh   
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Dont you mean
The Taliban was cracking down out on poppy production....  lol
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 8:10am » |
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In actuality, most of the world still uses opium & is needed to make Morphine, codeine, & other opiate & opioid meds. Also Naloxone which is used to counter-act an over-dose of opiates. America imports tons of the stuff...for just this use. C'mon...would you want to go through a serious operation or accident without a little morphine to ease the pain. Heroin is just a brand name (Bayer) for aceta-morphine which is used extensively for it's pain killing properties in a lot of European countries. It just so happens it's illegal in the US & that which is illegal is black-marketed to people who use.
I can't find the link but America had given the taliban big money in order to halt most of the production of poppy & what they did produce...offer to us at a "fair market price" ...for the pain-killing drugs a lot of people need.
Well along came osama..& screwed that up real good.
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 8:55am » |
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Quote:| In actuality, most of the world still uses opium & is needed to make Morphine, codeine, & other opiate & opioid meds. Also Naloxone which is used to counter-act an over-dose of opiates. |
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For some reason I dont think that is the primary motivation for poopy production in Afghanistan.
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 9:08am » |
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on Nov 29th, 2003, 8:55am, don wrote:| For some reason I dont think that is the primary motivation for poopy production in Afghanistan. |
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I have to agree with Don on this one.
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 9:36am » |
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on Nov 29th, 2003, 9:08am, brain_cramps wrote:
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Oh, I'm sure your right...I just wanted to point out that the production of opium is legal (heavily scrutinized, but legal) for such use.
Actually I think it's India that produces most of the legal opium for the world's use.
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 10:59am » |
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Hey Grant
Your £20 bet still intact.
You wrote POOPY without any smilies!
Shame no-one else is game for a bet for a good cause
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 12:03pm » |
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As i thought no answer. yes there may be more poppies produced now. so what. an unintended consequence of removing a government that was supporting an organisation that killed over 3000 of the worlds citizens. i ask again would you rather have more poppies growing or more september 11ths? i realise that the Afgan will not eliminate all terrorisim but i believe it will reduce terrorism. your silence on this speaks volumes. CNN has been found to invent stories one in partickular on gun controll (semi-auto/full auto) invented and deliberately missled. same as new york times, only CNN didnt fire the staff that did the story. Fox by the way usually presents both side in a debate style format, it only seems like it is right wing because we are so used to the socialist left giving us our news. is Fox to the right of CNN absolutely. Fox is closer to the center which is the to the right of the left. Just about anything could be to the right of CNN (does that mean it isnt "fair and balanced" absolutely not).
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 12:10pm » |
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on Nov 29th, 2003, 10:59am, pubgirl wrote:Hey Grant
Your £20 bet still intact.
You wrote POOPY without any smilies!
Shame no-one else is game for a bet for a good cause
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Never even noticed that! LMAO!
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Re: George Bush at his best
« Reply #18 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 2:34pm » |
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on Nov 28th, 2003, 11:01pm, 12gagueblast wrote:| Gee what is your point fubar? we should have left the tallies in power and let them help osama or what? who the hell cares? what you dont hear is that much of those poppies are used for pharmisutical morphine that is used in hospitals. let me ask would you rather have pretty flowers growing in Afganistan of terrorists. CNN the clinton news network, slanting again i'd say. |
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How'd I get dragged into this? I just started reading this thread.
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« Reply #19 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 2:47pm » |
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What's is all the right vs. left, CNN vs. FOX all about. The article was published by Reuters and plainly credited in the lead in. CNN, FOX and every other news agency use
Reuters as a source because they are one of, if not the most credible newswire services on the planet. I am a dyed in the wool DEMOCRAT, however I watch FOX news all the time, not only to get a different perspective on things, the women are better looking.
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« Reply #20 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 3:20pm » |
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on Nov 29th, 2003, 2:34pm, fubar wrote:| How'd I get dragged into this? I just started reading this thread. |
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LMAO....Shawn, I was wondering that myself
Christ dude, you get in trouble and you aint even here.....LMMFAO
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« Reply #21 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 3:40pm » |
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on Nov 29th, 2003, 2:34pm, fubar wrote:How'd I get dragged into this? I just started reading this thread.
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I noticed that this morning. I thought either you must have posted something that you regretted and eventually removed the post or had nothing to do with it.
Since its not like you to remove a post, I was wondering how long until you came along and noticed this!
LMAO!!!
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« Reply #22 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 4:46pm » |
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Sorry FUBAR! i was trying to poke fun of forgetfull not with the military acronim FUBAR i didnt know anybody used that as a name here my apoligies!!  you are right forgetfull the source makes no difference. with your post and your superior use of logic i never would have taken you for a democrat  . i noted that you posted but changed the subject to the news thing and did not answer my question. silence on the subject is golden.  .
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« Reply #23 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 5:16pm » |
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Bill O'Reilly, Shawn Hannity, Oliver North, Cal Thomas.
Lots of part-timer wackos of the Ann Coulter lunatic fringe as well. This bunch is as close to the center as Pat Roberston and Jerry Falwell.
Get Real.
It's fine being a conservative. George Will for example.
It's not okay to be nuts.
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« Reply #24 on: Nov 29th, 2003, 5:30pm » |
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I thought you were talking to someone else at the time, all I did was pat old George on the back, your political rhetoric doe's not interest me. As for the poppy production numbers, on the surface it looks bad, in reality the Taliban after several years of bumper crops had built a huge inventory that was declining in value due to over production. The only way to raise prices was to cut production. The street price of heroin jumped worldwide as a result. This small country is a huge player in worldwide heroin supply, not just good old morphine as you implied. Whether your are right, left or somewhere in the middle this is a failure by George Bush, Jr. to finish the fucking job in Afghanistan, If he can’t handle that just how do you think the Iraqi deal will pan out.
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