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Wendy1
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Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« on: Oct 6th, 2003, 8:40pm » |
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Dear Dr. Gott: What causes cluster headaches, and is there a cure?
Dear Reader: In general, cluster headaches are severe and throbbing, occur without warning, are probably related to migraine - The cause is unknown.
Many specialists have had success in preventing cluster headaches with prescription beta blockers..... Acute episodes are usually treated with pain medication (such as ibuprofen), oxygen or cortisone.
WHADYA THINK..... SHOULD WE TRY THE 'IBUPROFEN' LOL
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #1 on: Oct 6th, 2003, 8:43pm » |
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on Oct 6th, 2003, 8:40pm, Wendy1 wrote:| Many specialists have had success in preventing cluster headaches with prescription beta blockers..... Acute episodes are usually treated with pain medication (such as ibuprofen) |
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heh...unfortunately, some of the docs we see take this same approach. It would be SO much easier if they simply came clean and said, "I don't know."
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #2 on: Oct 6th, 2003, 8:47pm » |
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Right on, right on, right on......and I get to start educating a new neurologist "again". At least this time I have a "red" file folder filled with information from this board, along with a long list of all the meds I have previously taken. Wish me luck.
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #3 on: Oct 6th, 2003, 8:50pm » |
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You are absolutely right Prense, I read the article to my husband and we both just laughed. But it's not funny, here is this guy that the whole world read, and obviously he doesn't know what the shit he's talking about.... that is EXACTLY what is wrong here. WHY, WHY, WHY do so many ppl still not know about clusters?! I cannot figure it out.
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #4 on: Oct 6th, 2003, 8:56pm » |
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There's not very much demand for it Wendy. If such a small population suffers from this one neurological disorder, then why would a neuro spend his/her time trying to learn how to deal with it? I would imagine that is the current thought process for many. I'm guessing, but I am fairly certain that there are neuros out there who have never treated, nor been asked to treat CH. Some may make it through their entire career without having to face the challenge. Just a guess...
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #5 on: Oct 6th, 2003, 9:33pm » |
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When a doc says the word 'probably' or 'unknown' I get worried ! He shoulda said he 'DUNNO' Pam
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #6 on: Oct 6th, 2003, 10:16pm » |
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OK wendy
Where do I email this Dr Gott?? I think we should make HIM our email target of the week.
This pisses me off! Ibuprofen?
Never heard of Dr Gott before, but that wont stop me from emailing the sum bitch to let him know he needs to find a NEWER book to look up his answers in.
UGH
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #7 on: Oct 6th, 2003, 10:21pm » |
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How bout we use him as a human dart board at the next convention........a buck a toss ? Me first Pam
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #8 on: Oct 6th, 2003, 10:30pm » |
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Dr. Gott? Funny I guess.......
I agree folks.
My current neurologist (I do not see him for CH) said when I brought up CH: "They can be very painful."
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #9 on: Oct 6th, 2003, 10:44pm » |
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You know, Wendy & Prense......you would think that some of these dr's would take a real interest in CH. They could possibly become famous should they stumble upon a cure.
Kinda baffling......they all want to discover cures for all these illnesses and diseases. But noone wants to touch Ch. Makes no sense to me ???
Just seems that there has to be some sort of common denominator here. For some reason, some of us have CH......why is it that the medical community seems so disinterested?? But guess if we had the answer to that then we wouldn't need to be here.
Interesting thread....... 
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #10 on: Oct 6th, 2003, 11:36pm » |
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Are you sure this guy/girl is a doctor ?
what an idiot !  ibuprofen my azz 
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #11 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 4:06am » |
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Is this guy a columist? If so - for what newspaper? Is he syndicated? We need to get the address and write him, ask him to do a retraction. Be nice kids - remember - we MIGHT can catch more flies with sugar and all that stuff.... If that doesn't work - THEN we get tacky and write letters to his publisher and tell them he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about and should not be dispensing medical advice when he doesn't know anything and send PROOF!
I agree Jean, WHY don't they TRY to help us rather than try to be SMART ASSES when they just don't know anything. ??? Thank goodness my docs are smart enough to say, "I don't know!" when they don't know. After all they're only human.
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #12 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 4:08am » |
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i looked him up on google.. they give the articles he writes, but i cant find any way to write to him.
maybe i'm stupid. i dont know.
if anyone finds a way........... (i'll be nice.....promise)
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #13 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 5:03am » |
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I can't find an address either. What am I to do with my letter that says "Dr. Gott, you ain't GOT no brains!"
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #14 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 5:30am » |
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OEB --- Deep breath..... Dear Dr. G.... "I know in your TWO hours on headaches in med school, you didn't have time to research Cluster Headaches thoroughly, so I've taken the time to do it for you. Enclosed please find a short synopsis of CH. You'll notice that Iboprophen DOES NOT HELP - you idiot!!!! AND you'll also notice that they are NOT migraines!!!! We would appreciate your clearing this up or a bunch of clusterheads are going to come to your house and show you FIRST HAND what a REAL Cluster Headache is!!!!"
Well, maybe we need to work on it a "little". LOL!! Migraines and aspirin!!!!! Why doesn't he just join that guy back in the 1800s and do some blood letting?
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #15 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 5:51am » |
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Ask and ye shall receive
Write to Dr. Gott c/o United Media, 200 Madison Ave., 4th fl., New York, NY 10016.
Gott is a practicing doctor who writes a daily syndicated column. I have read numerous disagreements with things that he has said. He is a complete idiot for suggesting that Ibuprophen be used to treat CH. I mean, why not use an oil change to fix a busted head gasket in your car?
This definately sounds like a job for our OUCH president.
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #16 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 7:36am » |
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Thanks, Rev.
Spotted this crap yesterday in the Erie (Pa.) Times-News web site, but they didn't even put Gott's name on it. I sent a polite, detailed e-mail to some of the editors at the Times-News, explaining how bad it was and why.
I figure one of these editors has the responsibility of buying Gott's column. If there are enough complaints about Gott, about clusters and other topics, fewer papers will spread his misinformation.
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #17 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 9:05am » |
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dont know how to post it but i went into:
1-google
type in dailynews feedback
dont no if this is right but this is the only way i see
Dr Gott from the 1800's  might be reached
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #18 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 9:07am » |
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I've got a bottle of ibuprofen I can give to the Doctor...a really big one from Sam's Club. Perhaps he would benefit from a suppository - of the WHOLE FARKING THING!
On a good day this would get me mad. Today, I'm glad the FCC ruled that F*CK is ok to say on-air...
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #19 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 9:15am » |
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Here's the man, but after searching the United Media site, I can't find an e-mail address anywhere.
http://www.unitedfeatures.com/ufsapp/viewFeature.do?id=11
Like the Rev says, we need to write to the media service, I guess.
I'd like to write to the doc with a copy to United Media.
This definately needs to be addressed.
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #20 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 10:55am » |
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on Oct 7th, 2003, 5:51am, RevDeFord wrote:Ask and ye shall receive
Write to Dr. Gott c/o United Media, 200 Madison Ave., 4th fl., New York, NY 10016.
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Ok. So this Dr. Gott is in the same building I used to go for physical therapy.... only a couple blocks from where I work. Sooo tempting to just go down there....
What would you do?
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #21 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 11:21am » |
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Peppermint,
Hmmm.. Pack an ice-pick, a ball-peen hammer and a bottle of ibuprofen. When you are done demonstrating the effect of a KIP 5 (we don't want to be cruel, do we?), offer the Doc a couple of ibuprofens to make it all better.
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #22 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 11:25am » |
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So Glad you all feel my sentiments on this 'person'. I'm like IBUPROFEN; this guy obviously hadn't a CLUE as to what he was writing about.
So this is the address I have for him from my paper. He's a 'so called' columnist:
PETER GOTT, M.D.
c/o United Media, 200 Madison Ave., 4th fl., New York, NY 10016.
Sorry, I just get so F------ pissed off when ppl have no idea what they are talking about, and they call themselves a professional, when I've almost committed suicide over these things.
Let's get 'em!
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Re: Anyone Read 'Dr Gott' Today?:
« Reply #24 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 11:54am » |
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Dear Ms. Puello,
Please forward this email on to you Mr. Douglas R. Stern, President, United Media:
Dear Mr Stern:
I am writing to relay my concerns about an article written by your Peter Gott M.D. in regards to Cluster Headaches. I do not know how to reach him other than mail, so I am writing to you.
I am a 39 yr old female who has been diagnosed with Cluster Headaches for 20+ yrs. and I can tell you that the information that was printed in Mr. Gott's recent article on Cluster Headaches was false and very misleading. The pain of cluster headaches has been compared to cutting off of one's limb with out anesthetic, and I would choose childbirth over them. I'm assuming you would not recommend 'Ibuprofen' for this sort of pain. Also, Cluster Headaches are not truly related to migraines and as Mr. Gott suggests, they are a totally different headache with completely different pain. Cluster Headaches are also referred to as 'Suicide Headaches', because many people have truly committed suicide over them. There is no cure and many people suffer horribly with these disabling headaches.
My point being, for Mr. Gott to be representing a debilitating pain so close to many hearts, with obviously little to no knowledge of them is very disturbing to say the least.
In the least, I would expect a retraction of his statements regarding Cluster Headaches and ask that he research his subjects before 'shooting from the hip' in the future. I would suggest he (and you) visit the website www.clusterheadaches.com before he chooses to write about these headaches again. And pray to God that you or anyone you know NEVER has them. I trust you will do the right thing.
Sincerely,
W. Smith
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