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Blood group?
« on: Aug 18th, 2003, 4:22am » |
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I wondered if there was any sort of correlation between blood group and CH. I am O+
I have mentioned before on this board that I believe for me, wheat products may well be the cause of my CH, and I am doing my best to avoid them as much as possible and have been practically HA free since starting on this.
Coincidentally I have just started reading the Dr D'Adamo book on blood groups and diets and according to him wheat is a no-no health-wise for Group O, which he claims is "hunter gatherer" on the evolutionary scale. We should be eating meat, fruit and veg. Severe headaches is one of the health problems associated with a wheat diet for group O according to him
He claims that other groups like A, (cultivators) B, AB etc, which are further along on the evolutionary scale, are also susceptible to health problems (including headaches?) for other dietary reasons.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #1 on: Aug 18th, 2003, 7:17am » |
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I am also O+ and hardly ever eat wheat products. I am a strictly meat and potatoes kinda guy and always have been. Bread and such are really bad for my motabalism and give me stomach pain, indigestion and a really lathargic manner. If eating wheat was a cause of CH in O+ people I should be PF. LOL anyway .....
BTW I have read that research and do support most of its findings.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #2 on: Aug 18th, 2003, 7:53am » |
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0+ too! Is it a joke?
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Can somebody enlighten me how the heck there could be a connection - even the most far fetched one - between ch and blood group ? (or relatives with Altzheimer'e for that matter)?
Blood group is something to pay attention too for blood transfusion, and that's it.
Of course, construing a connection between blood type and personality type and then writting a book about can bring $$$. And suckering in people for a 'diet' adapted to their blood group can be the foundation of a $ucce$$ful $cam arti$t bu$ine$$.
But we have already three clusterheads with 0+. So there must be a correlation.
If you look at Racial & Ethnic Distribution Of AB0 Blood Types you'll have found the distribution of CH as well. ???
Ueli
BTW, If someone is interested in my blood group: it's the same as for almost every Tom, Dick and Harry around here: A+
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #4 on: Aug 18th, 2003, 10:50am » |
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I read the book. I think he is wrong, but I like the diet.
I'm O+ also.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #5 on: Aug 18th, 2003, 12:54pm » |
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I am A+ and my son who also has clusters is A-.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #6 on: Aug 18th, 2003, 2:00pm » |
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I have epilepsy too. No doubt my A+ is the reason.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #8 on: Aug 18th, 2003, 2:28pm » |
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #9 on: Aug 18th, 2003, 3:15pm » |
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #10 on: Aug 18th, 2003, 3:36pm » |
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Thanks Bruce for pointing out the recent thread I seem to have missed. I could not find anythingrelated to this using the search. So it seems there is no correlation.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #11 on: Aug 18th, 2003, 5:31pm » |
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B+ here. But that only shows that I am NUTS not CH sufferer. ha ha
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #12 on: Aug 18th, 2003, 7:57pm » |
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In response to the original post:
I can't believe what I just read.. 
JMORGAN WROTE:Coincidentally I have just started reading the Dr D'Adamo book on blood groups and diets and according to him wheat is a no-no health-wise for Group O, which he claims is "hunter gatherer" on the evolutionary scale. We should be eating meat, fruit and veg. Severe headaches is one of the health problems associated with a wheat diet for group O according to him
He claims that other groups like A, (cultivators) B, AB etc, which are further along on the evolutionary scale, are also susceptible to health problems (including headaches?) for other dietary reasons.
Food for thought
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #13 on: Aug 19th, 2003, 2:27am » |
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Hey Charlie
I think we have the same neighbor........
She thinks gravy is a beverage.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #14 on: Aug 19th, 2003, 2:38am » |
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Hey Lori,
I can't believe what you wrote either.
WTF do you mean? All you did was reproduce my post.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #15 on: Aug 19th, 2003, 6:32am » |
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A- here!
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #16 on: Aug 19th, 2003, 7:29am » |
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I think I did the quote thing right..anyway, it's one thing to believe in evolution but I just can't believe ANYONE would fall for such nonsense. Unbelievable. I am just amazed, that's all.
on Aug 19th, 2003, 2:38am, jmorgan52 wrote:Hey Lori,
I can't believe what you wrote either.
WTF do you mean? All you did was reproduce my post.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #17 on: Aug 19th, 2003, 7:48am » |
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I'm O-
Don't think it relates....but hey....My chiropractor says that it seems a bunch of factors all comming together at the right time seems to be the culprit....however.....I keep elimitating year after year ....all the trigger....or what I think might possibly be a trigger.....and boom (except for last year) here come the clusters....like clockwork...Guess I'm getting cynical....
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #18 on: Aug 19th, 2003, 7:56am » |
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So Lori, is this an evolution vs god thing now? I'm still not sure what your point is. You are easily amazed.
If you do believe in evolution then you must agree that man's diet has changed/evolved significantly since he first walked the earth. We eat stuff today that might well have been very bad for prehistoric man. The premise of this book is that man's blood group has evolved, and is still evolving to cater for the changes in diet from hunting meat and gathering fruit and nuts and plants, to today's diet rich in highly processed foods full of chemicals and lots of dairy products.
Apparently group AB is less than a few thousand years old, and a new group C may well be evolving in the USA now to enable man live on a diet of big macs and coke, and thrive on it without dying of obesity and it's related problems.
Take it or leave it, but I am prepared to try most things to get rid of these damn CH's. Right now I am doing much better than I have in many years by being a bit more careful about what I eat. My aim is to try and avoid CH and all the drugs I have been consuming for the thousands of HA's I have suffered. If I can do this for the next few years by avoiding wheat I will be very pleased. So far so good.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #19 on: Aug 19th, 2003, 8:30am » |
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JMorgan the thing to note here is "Severe headaches".
Clusters are not severe. I have had severe and would trade CH any day of the week for just a severe HA.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #20 on: Aug 19th, 2003, 11:14am » |
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John I agree we eat a lot of junk these days. I am on the Atkins Diet and have stopped eating sugar and white refined, processed foods. I even quit smoking 8 months ago. If it helps my HA's-great. I somehow don't think it will, but if eating differently helps you or anyone, then I am happy for you. As far as me believing in evolution vs. God...I am a Christian and believe I am here for a purpose, not formed out of a rock or whatever or am an accident. Just seeing the little you wrote about what this book teaches is nonsense, silly..I can't believe anyone would take this guy seriously after reading that. I am amazed at what people believe these days. Truly. It's very sad. No offense John, I think a good diet and exercise will improve our health overall. That's a no brainer. But to suggest a certain blood group eating certain foods (because of where they are on the evolutionary scale)is bad for your health is unbelievable. I can't imagine this doctor being very well respected in the medical community.
I usually don't get involved it these types of posts and for whatever reason I did in this one. I have said enough and don't plan on saying anymore because honestly I just don't have time to go on and on with it. I don't think bad of you john, I just hope you get rid of your CH's, we are all in the same position in regards to that. So, keep fighting to find something to help get rid of them. Good luck to you.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #21 on: Aug 19th, 2003, 11:15am » |
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John I agree we eat a lot of junk these days. I am on the Atkins Diet and have stopped eating sugar and white refined, processed foods. I even quit smoking 8 months ago. If it helps my HA's-great. I somehow don't think it will, but if eating differently helps you or anyone, then I am happy for you. As far as me believing in evolution vs. God...I am a Christian and believe I am here for a purpose, not formed out of a rock or whatever or am an accident. Just seeing the little you wrote about what this book teaches is nonsense, silly..I can't believe anyone would take this guy seriously after reading that. I am amazed at what people believe these days. Truly. It's very sad. No offense John, I think a good diet and exercise will improve our health overall. That's a no brainer. But to suggest a certain blood group eating certain foods (because of where they are on the evolutionary scale)is bad for your health is unbelievable. I can't imagine this doctor being very well respected in the medical community.
I usually don't get involved it these types of posts and for whatever reason I did in this one. I have said enough and don't plan on saying anymore because honestly I just don't have time to go on and on with it. I don't think bad of you john, I just hope you get rid of your CH's, we are all in the same position in regards to that. So, keep fighting to find something to help get rid of them. Good luck to you.
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #22 on: Aug 19th, 2003, 12:23pm » |
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Hi Lori,
No offense, but the Atkins diet is getting slated with really bad press here as a terrible diet which is dangerous to your health. Some would say that they are crazy to try it ??? Read the Dr D'Adamo book yourself and see if you agree with him when you see it in context. Borrow it if from the library or someone else if it makes Ueli happy that you are not adding to the authors bank account.
And Badfly - I really do know what CH is like. Most of my fairly long adult life has been plagued with these bastards and felt like ending it all on occasions, but they do pass for most. I also suffer from regular so called "severe headaches", migraines, tension headaches, you name them. Last March I was at the end of my rope with CH, and in desperation tried what was for me a very radical approach with the detox diet and it broke my cycle in a few days. Since then I have been more or less totally PF for the longest period in my life. This years "cycle" began with the usual twinges and mild daily headaches that I get in the build up to a full blown cycle for a few weeks, but I forced myself to do another detox diet and it stopped them in its tracks. I am pinning my hopes on this as you can imagine, but eating totally wheat free with little dairy, and mostly fuit,veg and light meat is not easy and I go off the rails a lot!
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Re: Blood group?
« Reply #23 on: Aug 19th, 2003, 12:41pm » |
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Hhhmmmm what you say is interesting John. You know I have been to see and spoken to alot of (what I would call) quacks (my opinion) in my time and you would actually be suprised to know how many of them say the following.
1) Either your diet is causing the headaches. Stay away from dairy or coffee or smoking. Actuallly none ever said wheat, which is actually strange.
2) Or you have some toxins in your blood, you are eating something that is poison to youre system.
Well I take all that freindly advice in much the way I listened to the half baked ideas of Doctors who said I had a sinus infection, needed new glasses or should take tranqualisers to aliviate my stress. Dont get me wrong I am a firm believer in Dr D'Adamo and some his collegues (I have seen this in other books before) ideas, however these are not hard and fast rules either. I also believe your matabolism, size, what kind of food you grew up on as well as what you eat before and after have a huge affect on youre health. Out of desperation I too have tried changing my diet, detoxing etc, but as yet to no avail. At some point one needs to draw a line in the sand and say enough. I wont try any half baked idea or plan unless a good many ppl TRULY got relief and can POSITIVLY correlate that to somthing they did or ate etc. It could be there is somthing in the blood, but I doubt it. Still the diet is good for you anyway, so there is no harm in trying.
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Re: Blood group?
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