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Donna
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Have you ever seen another type
« on: Aug 11th, 2003, 7:27pm » |
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of "being"? Call it a spirit or ghost or whatever, but have you ever seen, or felt a "presence"?
If yes, what were the circumstances, and what did you think and feel about it.
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Re: Have you ever seen another type
« Reply #1 on: Aug 11th, 2003, 7:54pm » |
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I haven't seen any, but my daughter has. She was 8 years old when my uncle (her great uncle) died.
One day, out of the blue, she said she saw Uncle Hank last night. (This was shortly after his death.) I asked her where he was, and she said in her bedroom.
This scared us a little so we asked questions like, did he talk to you (no). Did he touch you (no). What was he doing in your room (just moving around a little).
My wife and I didn't know what to think. We were a little frightened by it and past it off as whimsy. The next few weeks I found myself hearing noises back in the area of my daughters bedroom when no one was home. I was also awoken one night by someone saying my name. This voice was inside my bedroom while I was laying in bed. The voice was very clear and there was no mistaking someone had just said, "Andy". Scared the bejesus out of me!
I did not recognize the voice and after a couple weeks, I sort of convinced myself I really didn't hear anything. I guessed I was in that phase of just going to sleep where you can start dreaming, but your not in a full sleep yet. Weird.
Well, that was over 4 years ago and we're in a new house. Have had no experiences like that here and have not thought about those incidents until your thread.
Hope you all don't think I'm a weirdo now. I am open to the possiblity of ghosts and spirits.
Weird Andy
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Georgia
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Re: Have you ever seen another type
« Reply #2 on: Aug 11th, 2003, 9:41pm » |
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Well fuck me, Jack. I'm comin' home.
Yes, I have, and yes, I do.
I grew up with a "ghost"; a spirit that lived in our house. I called her "M'am". She was one of my best friends. I loved her, and I love her still. She was always there...plain as day. Everynight, I would put a chair next to my bed, so she could watch over me as I slept. She would come in, sit down, and I would be overcome with a feeling of calm and peace...drift off into sleep knowing she was there. If I woke with an ear infection (a common ailment for me) or a fever or a tummy ache or whatever, she would go get my mom for me. My mom eventually got used to being woken by a strange woman standing at the foot of her bed, gently shaking her. M'am would do this for all of us kids. At first, she would freak...shriek in fear....but whenever she did, the woman would walk out of the room and head towards one of the kids bedrooms. My mom would follow in an attmept to protect us, only to discover us waiting for our momma, not scared or in danger from the ghost. She grew to accustomed to her, grew to trust her, grew to accept her, grew to talk to her.
The rest of the family was not always so good about her appearances, though. She scared my brother a few times by throwing shit around his room, with him in it. I tried to explain to him that she was just upset and scared for him (she didnt want him to take a trip he was planning). He refused to be in the house alone after that. My sister was scared too most of the time. Although she shouldn't have been. After all, M'am had literally saved my sisters life. That's a whole nother story though. We had quite a few house guests that left in the middle of the night. We had more than one cleaning lady quit because the ghost was reaking havoc with them. I still think they just didn't understand her.
I still see "ghosts", the spirits of the dead visit me quite often...by visit I mean appear to me in plain sight, talk, feel touch, interact. I think that because of M'am...I never learned to fear them, and to thus close myself off to them. I speak to them on a regular basis, ask for their help and guidance. In fact, just the other night, I had cast a circle and invited some spirits to join me in the healing of Dennis. I had the pleasure of meeting his mom and dad, some other relatives and friends of his..his Grandma came, but she and I have talked before...many of my relatives came as well...some of whom I never met while they were alive...and M'am came. I was so thrilled to see her, I burst into tears. I hadn't seen her in a long time. Too long. I can only hope she sticks around.
Den is not at all interested in me having spirits hanging around. I try to explain to him that whether we see them or not, they are here...watching over us. He maintains his, "You're creepy" attitude anyway. He just saw me typing this and said, "Why are you telling people that you see dead people?! Everyone is going to think you are weird." Like that will be anything new.
There are many different kinds of "ghosts" out there...those that are just a glitch in the time-space continuum...like watching an old film....they don't interact...just appear, or make noises, etc. There are those that inhabit places, sometimes they don't even know they are dead...they can be very protective of their space. There are those that know us (whether we know them or not is a different story), come to see us, at our request (concious or not) or for their own reasons...their level of being seen or heard or felt can largely depend on us....I believe that they gauge our willingness to "see" and they will adjust their behavior accordingly, taking into account how important they feel the message they are bringing us is, of course. Many will appear in dreams, because that is an "open door"...where those who are not wiling to see them otherwise are open.
I see them in our house, on the street, at other people's houses, in stores, in the woods...just about everywhere. I generally keep it to myself as most people just don't want to know. Fear disguised as skepticism, I guess. I tell people when asked. I tell people when I feel the message being brought to them is to important to ignore. I tell people when a spirit is just bugging the hell out of me insisting that I tell. I tell people who are experiencing lower levels of "seeing". It can be a risk going up to a complete stranger and saying, "Uhhh...I am not sure how to tell you this, but your mom is here and she wants me to tell you _____." For the most part, people are accepting of the message, many cry, many manage a simple "thank you" and walk away in shock.
Donna - I gotta wonder what made you ask this in the first place. If it was more than just latent curiousity and you have more questions, feel free to email or PM me.
I'll go back to my crowded corner now.
Peace and love,
Georgia
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Re: Have you ever seen another type
« Reply #3 on: Aug 11th, 2003, 10:28pm » |
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Yes, Georgia, it is more than just curiousity.
I bought a house for me and my three kids in 1980. My sister , who was married for 23 years to an abusive man, was getting a divorce and she and her son came to live with us for about 8 months, and than she moved to Fla. near my mom.
Soon after I moved in, and only when napping at night in the living room on the sofa, I woke up several different nights to see people sitting all around the room. No one was speaking. I wasn't scared! I sat up to get a better look and to make sure I was really awake...and I was. I didn't know any of them. I got up and went to the bathroom and when I came back, they were gone.
A few months later, after my sister moved, I woke up to see her standing with her back against the front door, looking down at her feet and very pregnant. Her image just faded away. About a year later she started a Christian singles group and met a guy and married . She was 42 at the time and had three sons, 17, 19, and 21. Eleven months after she married, she had a daughter. I can't begin to understand what image I saw as it surely wasn't her.
In 1992, her youngest son came down with a horrible virus, symptoms much like hemmohragic fever, and passed away within 72 hours....from perfectly healthy to gone. In 1996, I saw him in my bedroom walking back and forth. He informed me that my mom was going to join him very soon and that is would be sudden and unexpected. And it happened just like he said.
I haven't seen anybody since 1996 and I was just wondering where they were.
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Re: Have you ever seen another type
« Reply #4 on: Aug 11th, 2003, 10:32pm » |
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It would make things interesting kids. Never experienced anything like it though.
As my mom used to say about heaven and things ethereal: Wouldn't it be nice if it turns out to be true? I agree I guess.
I draw the line with John Edward type stuff. They are despicable human beings preying on vulnerable greiving people. Classic cold readers
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Re: Have you ever seen another type
« Reply #5 on: Aug 11th, 2003, 10:53pm » |
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Donna -
I am really sorry about your mom and your nephew.
Are you still living in the same house where you saw the people? The people that you saw sitting there...were they looking at you...did it feel to you as though they were aware of YOUR presence? If not, they could just be images...not actual entities. If so, then it is very likely that they were spirits who occupied the area or the house and were letting you know that they were there. Your lack of fear indicates to me that they meant, and mean you, no harm. A simple "howdy do" visit. If that is the case, they are probably still around. If you want to know more about them...ask them. Just ask them and be open to their answers...however they may come.
The image of your sister: Thats what most of us weirdos call a premonition - a vision. Spirits that appear do not always have to be of dead people. My sister, who is very much alive, visits me in spirit as well. Astral travel kind of visits. I do not know how to explain visions like the one of your sister. I get them frequently and I have serious issues with them. I don't understand their purpose and what I am supposed to do with such information in many of the cases. I have been told that they are only shown to us to "prepare" us. Perhaps the universe felt you needed to be prepared for the pregnancy. Or maybe they were just happy as all get out about your sister finding real love and getting away from the not a very nice person that they just couldn't contain their excitement and shared it with you.
Your nephews visit: Again, I would think he was trying to prepare you for what was to happen. To ensure that you had time to say and do what you needed. And most importantly, to let you not only know that he was still "ok", but that your mom would be "ok" too, that he would be there to greet her...that they would be together. I think that a very special message, indeed.
Where have they gone, you asked? They are with you, rest assured. Are they watching you brush your teeth? Not likely. They have better things to do. But they are there when you need them, they hear you when you talk to them, they are with you and your family to share celebrations and hardships. I would take their visual absence as a simple, "they haven't anything pressing to tell you right now". If you feel like you NEED to see them or know that they are around...talk to them...ask them. They will let you know in their own way.
Peace and love,
georgia
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Re: Have you ever seen another type
« Reply #6 on: Aug 11th, 2003, 11:15pm » |
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Well, thank you Georgia. I appreciate you taking the time to answer. This is very interesting and I hope more people share experiences.
Thanks to you too "not so wierd" Andy, and MOC.
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Re: Have you ever seen another type
« Reply #7 on: Aug 11th, 2003, 11:45pm » |
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One more thing, Georgia......
Mom and I had old "issues" that I had been keeping deep inside. Near the end but before she became ill, we spent a lot of time together and did a lot of talking and forgiving.
She had what is called a "good death". My sisters and I were with her for the 12 days that she was unexpectedly hospitalized and died........we lived at the hospital. We laughed, cried, sang and told her how much we loved her and that is was OK to go because she was hanging on so.
You are right. My nephew's visit did jolt me and that is why she and I spent so much time together before she became ill, but I didn't realise the timing until just now.
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My dad and I had a very angry relationship. For example: One evening I had pulled an all nighter writing a paper at my college. As soon as I crawled into bed he burst through the door. The cancer and anger had swollen and distorted his face. He pointed down at me, eyes ablaze, somehow blaming his impending death on me. He spewed a buncha lines of his usual venom ending with "Your killing me"! in a garbled voice choked by the swelling.
He died soon after. I was 19. My Mom had died when I was 16.
I continued to live in this house that I was born and raised in. My brothers were away at grad school. So to help with house payments I rented out a bedroom to a college classmate. His first night there, a few minutes after we went to bed, a long, and I do mean looong wailing "noooooooo" was heard by both of us. The first one we wrote off and remained in our beds. The second one had us both standing in the hall going "what the fuck was that?"
I lived in the city and knew my neighbors. I knew that anyone yelling on the street like that would have the whole neiborhood out. Nothing. Nada. From the porch, it was, as they say quiet...too quiet. We were each looking different directions down the street. We conferred. He had heard it come from my direction and I had distinctly heard it come from his. Only later would we realize the signifigance of that. It had come from the wall between our rooms. The haunting had just begun.
For over a year classic "ghost" occurances took place. That wall I mentioned would "bang"...I'm talking like a 20 lb sledge hammer was hitting it. I saw only one apparition throughout it all...my dad. Objects moved. A wide variety of sounds were heard, including my name being spoken. Buncha wierd shit experienced by a lot of people.
I have since extensivly studied the paranormal. I don't see dead people....and don't want to. I leave that to my wife...she creeps me out plenty!
I have worked for the Catholic Church for 13 years. People are better off not knowing about exorcisms.
I have experienced the existence of very real forces of good and evil. Paranormal events fall into one of these two camps.....as does our everyday mundane activities.
If one hasn't yet or never experiences a paranormal event....they just don't need to. No big deal.
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