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TerryS
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Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« on: Aug 1st, 2003, 11:07am » |
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Subject: God Does Exist
GOD DOES EXIST
A man went to a barber shop to have his hair and his beard cut as always.
He started to have a good conversation with the barber who attended him.
They talked about so many things and various subjects. Suddenly, they
touched the subject of God.
The barber said: "Look man, I don't believe that God exists as you say."
"Why do you say that?" asked the client.
"Well, it's so easy, all you have to do is go out in the street to realize that God
does not exist. Oh, tell me, if God existed, would there be so many sick people?
Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be no suffering nor pain.
I can't think of loving a God who permits all of these things."
The client stopped for a moment thinking, but didn't want to respond so as not to cause an argument.
The barber finished his job and the client left the shop.
Just after leaving the barber shop he saw a man in the street with long hair
and beard (it seems that it had been a long time since he had his cut and he
looked so untidy).
The client went back to the barber shop and said to the barber:
"You know what? Barbers do not exist."
"How can you say they don't exist?" asked the barber. "Well, I am here and
am a barber."
"No!" the client exclaimed. "They don't exist because if they did there
would be no people with long hair and beard like that man who walks in the
street."
"Ah, barbers do exist, what happens is that people do not come to me."
"Exactly!"- affirmed the client. "That's the point. God does exist, what
happens is people don't go to Him and do not look for Him. That's why
there's so much pain and suffering in the world."
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> It is only a tiny rosebud,
> A flower of God's design;
> But I cannot unfold the petals
> With these clumsy hands of mine.
> The secret of unfolding flowers
> Is not known to such as I.
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #1 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 11:29am » |
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #2 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 12:18pm » |
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I was born on a Miller lite beere can on a wild african beer tree. ;D ;D
Seriously tho......."thanks Terry" for the story.  Pam that see's beer tabs 
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #3 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 12:40pm » |
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At least you were specific enough to specify what type of beer can...prolly would want to leave that open for interpretation to this crowd. ;D
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #4 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 12:49pm » |
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Ya God does exist, we are just his source of entertainment.
In the beginning, God created the bit. And the bit was a zero; nothing.
On the first day, He toggled the 0 to 1, and the Universe was. (In those days, bootstrap loaders were simple, and "active low" signals didn't yet exist.)
On the second day, God's boss wanted a demo, and tried to read the bit. This being volatile memory, the bit reverted to a 0. And the universe wasn't. God learned the importance of backups and memory refresh, and spent the rest of the day ( and his first all-nighter ) reconstructing the universe.
On the third day, the bit cried "Oh, Lord! If you exist, give me a sign!" And God created rev 2.0 of the bit, even better than the original prototype. Those in Universe Marketing immediately realized the the "new and improved" wouldn't do justice to such a grand and glorious creation. And so it was dubbed the Most Significant Bit, or the Sign bit. Many bits followed, but only one was so honored.
On the fourth day, God created a simple ALU with 'add' and 'logical shift' instructions. And the original bit discovered that by performing a single shift instruction, it could become the Most Significant Bit. And God realized the importance of computer security.
On the fifth day, God created the first mid-life kicker, rev 2.0 of the ALU, with wonderful features, and said "Screw that add and shift stuff. Go forth and multiply." And God saw that it was good.
On the sixth day, God got a bit overconfident, and invented pipelines, register hazards, optimizing compilers, crosstalk, restartable instructions, microinterrupts, race conditions, and propagation delays. Historians have used this to convincingly argue that the sixth day must have been a Monday.
On the seventh day, an engineering change introduced UNIX into the Universe, and it hasn't worked right since.
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #5 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 1:02pm » |
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...the bit bit the apple, they were banished from the garden, then I was hatched... I was trying to make a long story short. Sorry athos. ;D
Oh, and sometime later, Pam fell out of a tree in the form of a Miller lite beeeeeer can....
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #7 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 6:32pm » |
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Thanks Terry. You know how to pick the good ones.
Very nice to meet you but I'm sorry I didn't get to talk to you more.
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #8 on: Aug 1st, 2003, 8:05pm » |
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Me too Charlie, I so much wanted to vist with you.
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> It is only a tiny rosebud,
> A flower of God's design;
> But I cannot unfold the petals
> With these clumsy hands of mine.
> The secret of unfolding flowers
> Is not known to such as I.
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #9 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 12:23am » |
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... good stuff, Bro... gunna have to share that one...
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...now that's a trite homily! Cute... and goes down smooth. Mix it with some righteous henchmen and ya got folks dying cause some "saint" is tryin to end "pain and suffering" by shooting the godlessness outta the world.
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a frantic blind man "looking for God", rushing about in a room full of sharp objects and rough cutting walls, bleeding from his wrong guesses as to where God is,
....and at each wrong painful turn and new injury he hears God say "Nope...that's wrong...try again"
.....that ain't God.
...my pain has nothing to do with "not going to him/her" or "not looking for him/her".
To espouse that kind of spirituality is to heap coals of shame and guilt on a sufferer....and to seriously mislead one from the light.
Quite the opposite seems true. For example, I'll use christianity since that is what the majority here are probably used to. The person of faith is called to accept a cross. We are talkin some serious pain there.
"If ya had faith ya wouldn't be in pain"...that's bullshit.
Granted...my higher power does pull off some neat healings...miracles....and everybody in eyeshot jumps up and down cause they witnessed "proof" of God's existence....and when that occurs it's his/her business not mine. Those folks have "seen".
Blessed are those that have "not seen" and yet believe. The ones whose pain has not been miraculously taken away. The ones whose children were torn from them. The ones for whom all evidence points to the non existence of God....and yet they still "believe"
On earth...Man's ideas have yoked Pain and punishment together. In the darkness of a "10"....we can't help but get this feeling/thought/question...."what did I do wrong?"
At my best, during a "10", I accept and "offer up" the pain for someone else....at my worst I call God one heartless, cruel, sadistic, son of a bitch. Neither lessens or intensifies the pain. No magic tricks.
I'm writing all this during one of the worst days/nights of Clusterheadaches i have ever experienced....
Wage peace
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #11 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 4:12am » |
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on Aug 1st, 2003, 12:49pm, athos12 wrote:On the seventh day, an engineering change introduced UNIX into the Universe, and it hasn't worked right since.
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #12 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 6:25am » |
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TerryS,
Within the context of Theology, that’s probably the best, most approachable explanation of this very thorny theological subject that I have ever heard. And, in parable form.
Den,
Sorry Den, I used my 24 hour pain free, get out of jail free card, on my post to 2late. All I have left is blue cheese and vinegar. I’m sure it’s in the archives somewhere. Good luck, man. I hope you get some pain free time very soon.
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #13 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 5:39pm » |
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It doesn’t matter whether god exists.
Pain exists.
A belief in God can be helpful for some, and I say good for them.
As long as we all realize it’s up to us humans to help each other.
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 6:09pm » |
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #15 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 6:15pm » |
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on Aug 2nd, 2003, 6:09pm, jonny wrote:When the car is going over the cliff everyone believes.
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Is that car filled with circus midgets?
Thanks Terry for the story.
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #16 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 6:55pm » |
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on Aug 2nd, 2003, 5:39pm, tommyD wrote:It doesn’t matter whether god exists.
Pain exists.
A belief in God can be helpful for some, and I say good for them.
As long as we all realize it’s up to us humans to help each other.
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If I only had other "humans" to depend on to get me through this life, I'd surely wind up disappointed. They are just as imperfect as I am. I 'd be lost without my faith.
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #17 on: Aug 10th, 2003, 6:08am » |
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I believe in myself, and my own integrity. Right and wrong are just points of view. Religion is based on right and wrong and therefore is flawed in the same way. Belief is somthing else. It doesnt matter what you believe in, be it God, Animism, or the holey whatever, the act of believing is where you draw your strength. I do not ask the question "Is there a God?" The question is futile and pointless. The one who asks doesnt know, the one who answers has a beliefe. I say I will be good and just, for the sake of myself and my family. I seek no reward for my acts of kindness, just the feeling I get when I do right is enough for me to know I have done good. When I am down and desperate I dont call out to some unkown, unseen all seeing all powerful God to help me, its pointless, it wont work or else we would all be doing that. I suck it up and pull it together, and if possable lean on my friends.
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 10th, 2003, 11:51am » |
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Badfly Believeing in ones self is good! What ever you believe in is good. Faith is good ! I respect your believe. I hope you respect mine!
I believe there is a higher power! I believe what ever you have faith in helps! FAITH is good!
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #19 on: Aug 10th, 2003, 10:08pm » |
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I love this thread it sure beats the political stuff on my congress thread........ I believe... and the God I believe in believes in all of you... and the Higher Power gives me the power to prevail, when there has been no where to turn... no money left in the till, and weakness beyond weakness. He helps me to find strenght that could move mountains and endure anything. And I have. I have seen the miracles. I am a witness to it.
Den I loved your post... We are all good here at CH.com and whether we believe or not... We are doing Gods work, for God to me is Love and Love is what runs this place... Love to you all Ree
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #20 on: Aug 10th, 2003, 11:10pm » |
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Quick answer? No! Whatever my car is driving over.
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« Reply #21 on: Aug 11th, 2003, 9:45am » |
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #22 on: Aug 11th, 2003, 2:39pm » |
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Nope I dont believe in him, but I do find myself asking for some relief when a bad one hits...lol
It never helps, but I dont get my panties in a bunch about it...
If he's there fine. If not no big deal.
I think anybody raised in America would give it a chance at some point...You know our ancestors were some religous SOBs and our society still reflects that. Wether we like it or not, we get so much christianity shoved down our throats from the time we are born till we die that it's always back there in the subconcience somewhere.
I personally try not to let those christian soldiers get to me and I leave them alone, but DAMN can you not come knocking on my door at 9am wanting to talk to me about protecting myself from porn!
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #23 on: Aug 11th, 2003, 2:47pm » |
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I think it's great to be spiritual and wonder where we came from and consider what life is all about, but when someone starts talking to a little old man and asking for stuff and actually expecting things to happen, well ...
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Re: Does God Exist? Sometimes we wonder.
« Reply #24 on: Aug 11th, 2003, 7:32pm » |
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oooooooooo well what if I have proof... something to ponder... Ted what did you run over???????????LOL
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