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Math Question (not CH)
« on: Jun 19th, 2003, 9:13pm »
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Clark (aka Anthem) needs help with a math problem:
 
Let A be a subset of the real numbers. The "characteristic function" of A is
defined to be the function f(x) such that f(a) = 1 if a is an element of A
and f(a) = 0 otherwise. If f(x) is the characteristic function of A and g(x)
is the characteristic function of B, what is the characteristic function of
the union of A and B?
 
 
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 19th, 2003, 9:20pm »
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 19th, 2003, 11:00pm »
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Re: Math Question (not CH)
« Reply #3 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 2:08am »
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Thats simple Cat. It all adds up to HEADACHE    Grin ;D ;D ;D
 
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 4:25am »
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TRICK QUESTION (I think)
 
Just a wild guess... but the union of A and B is the union of all REAL numbers and all non-REAL numbers, or in fact, ALL numbers.
 
Is it possible to find two linear functions, f(x) = mx + b and g(x) = nx + c, such that the function h(x) = f(x).g(x) is tangent to each.  
 
A traditional approach would begin with algebraic manipulation.  This is useful because it keeps the inexperienced occupied, but what can one know for sure?
 
Clearly, h(x) = (mx + b)(nx + c) is a polynomial of degree 2 and h(x) has two roots. The respective roots are when f(x) = 0 and g(x) = 0.  This means the graph of h(x) crosses the x-axis at the same two points as f(x) and g(x).  
 
Thus, if there are points of tangency then they must occur at these common points on the x-axis.
 
In conclusion, it is a union of all REAL numbers and all non-REAL numbers, or in fact, ALL numbers.
 
Its been a long time since I've had to use anything other than 'logical math'...   ie.  AND,  OR, and XOR.
 
BUT after consuming more than 18 REAL beer (ie. non-American beer), I think that this proves my theory.
 
If this is the case, HOLY SHIT!     Shocked
 
Otherwise, where the hell is Ueli?
 
grant              ??? Roll Eyes
 
 
 
 
P.S.     cat, you're right...   If yer gonna be stupid, ya gotta be tough!!!     ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 4:30am »
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I think I'll cheat and look at the guy next to me's paper.  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 4:33am »
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Suzy
 
If you want to pass, you better not be sitting next to me.    Grin ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 6:41am »
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ROFL that was quite an answer grant!!!
 
I'll be sure he logs in to check those out LOL
 
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 7:38am »
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Darnit Cat.  You sneaky girl.... thought You'd have the answer.....  
 
You did this in chat last night and I got a headache...ya done did it again....  
 
ok... where's BillyJ....I think I need some aspirin....
 
 
 
 
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on Jun 20th, 2003, 7:41am, Brian_Y wrote:
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No repeat answers ya Yank.  
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 7:51am »
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It's the answer to everything, so it's not really a repeat.  Agreed?
 
And calling me a "Yank" will git yer arm "yanked" out of the socket.
 
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 7:56am »
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on Jun 20th, 2003, 4:25am, brain_cramps wrote:
TRICK QUESTION (I think)
A traditional approach would begin with algebraic manipulation.  This is useful because it keeps the inexperienced occupied, but what can one know for sure?

 
Good one grant. Reminds me of the Blues Traveler song. Anyway, I think what you're looking for is:
 
C = A U B
 
We'll let h(x) be the characteristic function of C (the union of A and B)
 
Therefore, the mathematical union of the characteristic functions will be:
 
h(x) = f(x) + g(x) - [f(x)*g(x)]
 
Simple, huh?
 
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on Jun 20th, 2003, 7:51am, Brian_Y wrote:
It's the answer to everything, so it's not really a repeat.  Agreed?
 
And calling me a "Yank" will git yer arm "yanked" out of the socket.
 
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Agreed.  
 
You planning on hurting me?  
Oo..Oo I'm skeered... wahhhhhhhhhhhhh....
 
 
 
YANK.  
Neener,neener,neener.....
 
 
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 11:54am »
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on Jun 20th, 2003, 7:51am, Brian_Y wrote:
And calling me a "Yank" will git yer arm "yanked" out of the socket.
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Hey LBB are you gonna do that yourself or are you going to get someone to do it for you... ;D
 
I think the answer is 143..... Wink
 
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I think the answer is Y. Y are you doing this to us?!?!? Wink  Grin ;D ;D
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 11:59am »
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omg....I woke up and read this thread first for some reason.  Cat, it was actually painful.  
 
My answer parallels Svenns.......the answer is a headache (along with crossed eyes... ;D).
 
Grant, your answer even hurt..... Wink
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Cathy, Miss Fluffyknickers....
That is devastatingly handsome, erudite, LBB to you!!
And the answer is.......CHOCOLATE!!
 
I know it's the answer.......aside from one other possibility mentioned above, chocloate is the answer to everything!! Right?
 
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 12:21pm »
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Duct Tape is the answer to everything
 
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Don't ever, and I mean ever
 
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I agree with with Roxy,  
 
     While reading Cats question and Grants answer, not only did my eyes cross, but I deleloped an uncontrollable twitch, followed closely by an anxiety attack.  
   
 
  Good God,  Do people actually want to know this stuff?    LMAO LindaH
 
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« Reply #20 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 3:40pm »
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Cat,
  I'll break out my calculous books and let you know.
 
Brian,
   It's obvous that the question in you brain waves,
   by the way what is the population of the universe?,  
   and have you ever heard of Stavro Mueller Beta?
 
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Bob G,
 
NOW you tell me!
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on Jun 20th, 2003, 3:40pm, Opus wrote:
have you ever heard of Stavro Mueller Beta?

 
That sounds familiar, think I may have heard that name mentioned when I dined in the Restaurant at the End of the Universe Wink
 
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« Reply #23 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 4:36pm »
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Yeah, but by the time the mice finished up the computer & got the answer, they had forgotten the question.  (Got my handkerchief right here Cheesy)
 
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PS: BTW my first answer is correct. ;D
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What the devil are you doing with a handkerchief??  That won't put a 'dent' in any problems you run into Wink
 
All good hikers know you need a towel  Roll Eyes
 
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