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My take on the lurker
« on: Jun 10th, 2003, 3:50am » |
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First off, I don't mind people posting very little, thinking they're not able to write well enough, feeling that every thing has already been said on a certain subject. Or even people who are enjoying a painfree season away from the board.
Intererestingly, it's mostly these same unoffensive "lurkers" who feel hurt by the recent discussions. Now at a guess, most regulars on this board have NO problems at all with this kind of lurker.
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The ones I personally have probs with are the people who do not EVER contribute anything positive, informative or supportive, AND,
* who breeze in after xxx months/years, demanding help and info, as if ch.com were a service they paid for, so that gives them rights...
* who have just discovered another miracle cure and want to spread sweetness and light.
Unhampered by any knowledge of clusters they unload their helpful drivel and get very angry when it isn't accepted with gratitude.
* who thrive on other people's emotions. Who get off on suffering. I KNOW we get them here.
Am I exaggerating?
No. Did you know there are people who regularly visit funerals of perfect strangers - and not to stuff themselves with coffee and sandwiches. To stuff themselves with the mourners' peaking emotions.
I would not call them lurkers myself; I'd call them ghouls.
So I'd say happy lurking to the shy, the modest and the honest.
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #1 on: Jun 10th, 2003, 4:16am » |
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on Jun 10th, 2003, 3:50am, ave wrote:
* who breeze in after xxx months/years, demanding help and info, as if ch.com were a service they paid for, so that gives them rights...
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Very well said Ave. I guess lurker is the wrong word for it. Hey I lurk myself at times when I either dont have time or nothing to say but I do try to make it a point to add some support to someone in need if possible.
Have a great day,
Suzy
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #2 on: Jun 10th, 2003, 4:27am » |
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I don't care one way or the other if someone lurks or participates. But then I don't care about a lot of things.
But, what I don't like is someone that comes here, asks a question that has been asked 400 times before or the same question is 2 posts down the board but they refuse to read on their own or have no idea what a search button is for.
After they get their answer they are never heard from again. No "Hi how ya doing", "Thanks for the help" no nothing.
:*@&^%?~ them!
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #3 on: Jun 10th, 2003, 4:56am » |
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These groups imho do best w/ out leaders/ when anyones opinion counts.
No ones feelings should get hurt/ at least not intentionally.
Gene
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #4 on: Jun 10th, 2003, 5:30am » |
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You're right gene. At this site we have only one leader, the webmaster DJ. All the rest of us are followers.
Everyone's opinion is important here. But, opinions are like bellybuttons, everyone has one. Some people think their opinion is more important that all others. After you're here a while you learn who is believable and who's not. Your choice of who to believe or not, who is right who is wrong, who is knowledgable and who is full of crap may be different than mine and Joe Sixpack's.
This message board is like all message boards.........
Some lurkers, some readers, some posters and some wanna-be's.
Just remember, a very wise man recently said on this very board (I won't post his name because it might embarrass him and I can't remember it anyway)
An internet message board will always deteriorate to it's lowest common intelligence. (or something like that).
And a question for you, Why the hell are you up in the middle of the night? ;D
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #5 on: Jun 10th, 2003, 8:55am » |
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(lûrk)
intransitive verb. lurked, lurk·ing, lurks
To lie in wait, as in ambush.
To move furtively; sneak.
To exist unobserved or unsuspected.
Are we using the correct verb here?
OK, OK. It's symantics but let's get a grip!
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #6 on: Jun 10th, 2003, 9:00am » |
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I ain't afraid of jonny..........
I'd tie that sucker up with his own hair and have Den sit on him  just like at the convention. 
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #7 on: Jun 10th, 2003, 11:55am » |
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You know, a lot of stuff seems to be pointed at Jonny. A lot of people come here, see a few of his..."saltier" posts and judge immediately.
But what a lot of people don't take into consideration is that Jonny is open and outfront. He disagrees...he tells you. He doesn't like you...he tells you. Right or wrong, mean or nice, Jonny is Jonny. He doesn't hide anything, or make nice to your face and then talk bad about you behind your back. I respect that.
When you stick around, you begin to understand certain things about people. You look closely enough and you see the good, the bad and the ugly. Sometimes, you find someone who seemed only bad and ugly, just uses those to hide and protect the good. Others use the good to hide the bad and the ugly. And still others throw all of them right out there for everyone to see.
We are all unique and complex individuals with histories and experiences that no one knows or could understand which have formed us and made us who we are.
I've learned that making a judgement about someone based on one or two observations can be a big mistake.
There have been very few people here that I felt were truly here to cause trouble and nothing else. Everyone else is reacting in accordance with their beliefs, experiences and needs.
If everyone were the same...life would not be worth living. We need all the different types of people and personalities.
Sherry
I probably should have posted this to a different thread but I thought about it here, so posted it. Sorry Ave.
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #8 on: Jun 10th, 2003, 12:15pm » |
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WOW.
I recall, many years ago when there were MANY less people here. At that time, people came and went as needed. It seems to have gotten a little bit of "us" vs "them" on this board.
Peaple getting off on others pain, ok - in an ironic twist they should end up with chronic. People who come and go, or post without searching.....they are people. People with the same affliction and as y'all know, moter skills, patience and good judgement can go out the window when in a cycle.
Not to offend but, help where and when you can. Remember, just because you are on frequently does not entitle you to look down your nose at those who come when needed.
I left this board for some time. I did not bother coming back during my last cycle (not that I can remember). I am here now and trying to help. Case and point.
Again, not to flame anyone but please step off of your high horse and come back down to earth.
Peace - jmin
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #9 on: Jun 10th, 2003, 12:19pm » |
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Sherry, I agree with you that we are made up of all different kinds of folks here and that's what keeps things dynamic. Otherwise, it would be pretty schmaltzy sweet and damn boring!
But I do agree with BobG when he said:
"At this site we have only one leader, the webmaster DJ. All the rest of us are followers."
I think we've beaten this lurker subject to death now. Folks come and go - life goes on. That's it, that's all.
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #10 on: Jun 10th, 2003, 2:45pm » |
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Yes, enough lurking. Here are some new subjects to think about.
11 entries found for Lurk.
Entry: lurk
Function: verb
Definition: hide
Synonyms: conceal oneself, creep, crouch, go furtively, gumshoe, prowl, girl thingyfoot, skulk, slide, slink, slip, snake, sneak, snoop, stay hidden, steal, wait
Concept: hiding
Entry: ambush
Function: verb
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Antonyms: resist, retreat, surrender
Concept: attacking
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Antonyms: disclose, display, divulge, expose, let out, reveal, show, spotlight, tell, uncover
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Function: verb
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Antonyms: dash, hasten, hurry, race, rush
Concept: motion (self)
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Function: verb
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Synonyms: cruise, gumshoe, hunt, lurk, mooch around, nose around, patrol, girl thingyfoot, range, roam, rove, scavenge, skulk, slink, snake, sneak, stalk, steal, stroll, tramp
Concept: motion (slow)
Entry: girl thingyfoot
Function: verb
Definition: walk carefully
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Concept: motion (slow)
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Synonyms: bypass, cheat, creep, dodge, dog, dog it, duck, elude, eschew, evade, featherbed, fence, flub, flub off, fluff off, get around, goldbrick, goof off, gumshoe, lurk, malinger, parry, girl thingyfoot, quit, shuffle off, shun, sidestep, skulk, slack, slink, slip, sluff off, snake, sneak, steal
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Concept: motion (slow)
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Function: verb
Definition: sneak around
Synonyms: creep, flit, glide, go stealthily, gumshoe, insinuate, lurk, mouse, pass quietly, girl thingyfoot, shirtk, skulk, slide, slink, slip, snake, tiptoe
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #11 on: Jun 10th, 2003, 10:43pm » |
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Isn't the world FULL of lurkers 'of sorts'......(I'm beginnin to hate that word or maybe jus burnt out on it fer sum reason)......I go to the same stores and 'places' over and over and see the same people......sum never even acknowledge I am there.....they just walk on buy or sit and ignore me as they do with many others I mite add. Some say hi every time some ask how I am...sum jus simply smile.....the others seem to jus fill in space amd mill about doin there own thing in total privacey and silence I guess.......long as they do no harm (no glares stares or insults) they don't bother me. Pam that thinks what goes around comes around
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #12 on: Jun 11th, 2003, 6:12am » |
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Some people aren't posters. They feel uncomfortable or have strange ideas about privacy and the like.
Still, from this, if you lurk, don't tell us and lie when and if you post. It won't work forever but it may be worth a try. Who knows? You might get to know us and discover that this is a pretty good place to lurk out loud.
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #13 on: Jun 11th, 2003, 1:51pm » |
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Am I to understand that because I am new to posting here that if I find something to have been of use to me, asking for others to correct me if I'm wrong when I do post, because I do want to be of help to others if I can (I am no neurologist and this is only my second cycle of CHs) that I should keep it to myself? Does this make me someone who lurks? I feel thankful that I have found this website and it seems everyone here has these attacks at some point. I am no pro and am just finding out what is or isn't working for me and I have posted those things (neurontin, relpax, etc.). Should I just keep those things to myself and not share? I don't understand what could be the problem if someone is lurking or not, I'm under the impression that this is a site for all to share and I would like to know if I should stop posting things I have found to be helpful in my own experience. I certainly read and listen intently when others have said there is something I should try. I would lick my own ass if that stopped this pain if that's what my neuro said would help but I don't know if I am offending someone because I haven't had cluster headaches for 10+ years. Stuey
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #14 on: Jun 11th, 2003, 2:04pm » |
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Who am I to tell you what to do? But if you want my personal opinion: "no" to all your questions. Course you don't keep it to yourself!
Would not be reasonable having a message board where visitors discourage other visitors to post...
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Re: My take on the lurker
« Reply #15 on: Jun 11th, 2003, 7:48pm » |
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Stuey:
Post anytime and say anything you want. It's been 12 years since my last attack and these goofs still read my stuff. 
Glad to have ya here.
Charlie
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