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Cluster Headaches and Bipolar Disorder
« on: May 26th, 2003, 3:20pm » |
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This is probally way off the issue, but last year I suffered my worst cluster in fifteen years. It started in September and lasted until Feburary. At its peek, I was suffering ten to fifteen headaches per day. To make a long story short, reaching 1200 mg of lithium and 340 mg virapimil daily subsided the headaches.
Then, In March, I suffered a sever depresive episode, which lead me to visit a psychiatrist, the first ever for me. After several visits, I was diagonsed with Bipolar disoder. By May, I was instutionalized (suicide attempt).
The doc in the hospital told me that Bipolars are more likely to have manic episodes and attempt suicide in the spring. What's interesting about this is this coinsides with my annual cluster, that run from March to early June.
I was wondering if anyone else has experenced this seasonal phenomena, cluster headaches and bipolar disoder in the spring. Since the medications used to treat each are the same (ie. lithium and virapimil), it appears, at least to me, logical that there is some connection.
Just any though on the mater would be helpful?
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« Reply #1 on: May 26th, 2003, 3:32pm » |
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Ive been chronic for nearly 28 years and have been taking Lithium and Verapamil every day for 12 years.
So far im pretty sane, depending on who you ask.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26th, 2003, 3:48pm » |
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on May 26th, 2003, 3:32pm, jonny wrote:So far im pretty sane, depending on who you ask.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26th, 2003, 3:59pm » |
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on May 26th, 2003, 3:48pm, brain_cramps wrote:
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See what I mean?....I get no respect!!!.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26th, 2003, 4:26pm » |
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Jtate... Welcome to you....sorry to read your post, I don't know the answer to your question, but I guess being in cycle makes most sufferers feel depressed and in some cases suicidal... 
As for Jonny...I say respecccccttt ta dattttttt man ;D
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Re: Cluster Headaches and Bipolar Disorder
« Reply #5 on: May 26th, 2003, 4:48pm » |
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Welcome Jtate
Sorry - kinda got side-tracked with jonny. Besides a lot of answers and support, we like to have our fun too! I didn't mean to hijack your thread - hopefully it doesn't get too bad! (Don't think it will)
Where are you? Maybe there is someone near you - it always helps to meet another clusterhead! It is an unbelievable experience meeting someone else that goes through the same thing and understands.
Start reading and ask away!
Once again - WELCOME. These people are the best bunch of people that you'll meet. helpful, knowledgeable, compassionate, selfless...
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Re: Cluster Headaches and Bipolar Disorder
« Reply #6 on: May 26th, 2003, 5:03pm » |
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« Reply #7 on: May 26th, 2003, 8:35pm » |
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« Reply #8 on: May 26th, 2003, 10:25pm » |
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Welcome!
Don't know much about bipolar, but many clusterheads have seasonal episodes.
I don't know, but have a feeling it might be coincidence.
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« Reply #10 on: May 27th, 2003, 8:02am » |
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I've been wondering about a link between Bipoloar Disorder and cluster headaches.
I am not Bipolar, but my youngest son is. They keep telling me that Bipolar is hereditary and neither my ex-wife's family or mine has a history (that we know of).
The meds they have him on are the same meds they have tried with me and the description of biploar being cyclic and tied to the hypothalmus made me wonder if there is a link.
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« Reply #11 on: May 27th, 2003, 3:54pm » |
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Jtate, I managed to stumble across some information which may carry a measure of relavence. If we take for granted that serotonin levels are low in persons with CH (Waldenlind et al, (1985) found low whole blood serotonin levels among cluster patients both during an active bout and during remissions) then we can look at how low serotonin levels can possibly connect Bipolar disorder with CH. Some researchers hypothesize that a drop in serotonin levels causes the trigeminal nerve to release substances called neuropeptides, which travel to your brain's outer covering. There they cause blood vessels to become dilated and inflamed.
If we then look to studies which have shown increases in the levels of some neuropeptides in the hypothalamus of persons with Bipolar disorder, and findings which demonstrate that the hypothalamus plays some role in the mechanism of CH, then we have a possible reason to think the two may have some connection.
You may want to use google to search for information on neuropeptides, and whether the same neuropeptides are involved in both phenomenon.
Hoping you find yourself on the good side of this ordeal very soon.
PFDANs
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(((im with don.................. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA))) jonny you are our poster child for sane...........NOT!!!
ON THE MORE SERIOUS SIDE... CH is known to cause severe depression... sleep deprovation, weight loss, gain, etc...
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« Reply #13 on: May 27th, 2003, 6:39pm » |
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on May 27th, 2003, 6:14pm, Ree wrote:| jonny you are our poster child for sane...........NOT!!! |
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So I guess thinking you are a hot chick goes out the window, huh? ;D................LOL
See you Dave at the convention!
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I told you you were nutz... (and you need glasses) love ya anyway lol Ree
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