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Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« on: May 12th, 2003, 3:26pm »
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Things around here just aren’t what they used to be.
I have my own personal reasons for this decision.
I will be lurking for now on.
I have also removed my name as a member of OUCH.
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #1 on: May 12th, 2003, 3:32pm »
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Doug......I always enjoyed the way you challenged me when I said something out of line.
 
Lurk away but don't be a stranger. Your knowledge is needed here.
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #2 on: May 12th, 2003, 5:17pm »
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Dear Dr. Doug L,
 
 
Today is a sad day for ch.com. and O.U.C.H. you are a good friend to many and hold knowledge that is so valuable.
You will be missed by many people.  
Whats even sad is there is only three post here and your message has been read 40 times at this time. I can so see your point and understand it fully!
May your days ahead be PF and may you always know that your not alone and they are people who care! A lot of those people lurk with you. You know my email feel free to write any time.
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« Reply #3 on: May 12th, 2003, 5:26pm »
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. I can so see your point and understand it fully!  

 
I dont. There is no explanation. Not that one is required.
 
How can someone respond to something we know nothing about.
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« Reply #4 on: May 12th, 2003, 5:48pm »
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Thats just the point Don, No one understands what many are saying, and so many of us are tired of trying to get our point across!
 
Things have been posted over and over again, but when it comes right down to it no one gives a shit!
 
Just my opinion !  
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« Reply #5 on: May 12th, 2003, 5:50pm »
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think about it & stay on, don't just lurk! certain shit around here pisses everyone off, but all in all this fuckin' joint rocks!!! not sure about yer reasons but you need to reconsider!                                    ............Jack
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #6 on: May 12th, 2003, 6:15pm »
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  Doug,  
 
     I'm going to step out on a limb here.
 
I'm almost certain of why you're leaving and I've got to say this to you.   Bull-shit.   Doug, you are stronger than that.  
 
 
 If you feel you must go away, no one can stop you from doing what you have to do,   but your humor and your insightfulness will be missed here by more than just me.  There's a rainbow at the end of every storm, Doug, and this too shall pass.  
 
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #7 on: May 12th, 2003, 6:33pm »
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Don't go Doug L we need you here... If you change your mind remember we are always here, waiting patiently for a cure for Clusters.  Pain free days and cozy nights to you friend... Love and Peace to you Ree
 
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #8 on: May 12th, 2003, 8:47pm »
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  bump.   sorry.  I didn't want this to get lost.
 
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #9 on: May 12th, 2003, 8:57pm »
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Maybe I don't have a right to say this, but I'll say it anyway...  
 
I don't know you very well Doug, but I've seen your posts from time to time.  
 
I couldn't possibly know what is troubling you but I do know this - apart from all the things you may have to sift through, all the good things you've found here will always be with you.  I hope that whatever you do, even if you're lurking, the love of the people that you've come to know here, their support and comradery, continues to give you what you need, on and off this board.  
 
Sad to see you say you're going, I'm sure there are a lot of clusterheads yet to come that might benefit from someone who's been around a while.  
 
I almost didn't say what I wanted to for stupid reasons - but it didn't supercede the really true ones.  
 
So yet again I open my mouth, maybe I stuck my foot in it.  Oh-well, if I did.  
 
PFDAN to you Doug.
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« Reply #10 on: May 12th, 2003, 9:20pm »
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It is really sad that lots of good people have left the mb because of bs going on...stick around, bro...some of us need your humor and compassion...God bless, nancyc
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #11 on: May 12th, 2003, 10:03pm »
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Sorry to hear that DougL...   one less Doug is not a good thing!
 
Take care
 
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« Reply #12 on: May 12th, 2003, 10:18pm »
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r.e. my other post on Don's, please , please tell me what you mean by this b..sh.t.
 
It seems pretty clear that only a few people are in the know, and Doug sounds too far p.ss.d off to explain now.
 
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #13 on: May 12th, 2003, 10:25pm »
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not sure I really know you real good Doug but hate to see you go !!! Families squabble and disagree all the time.....I don't know what's wrong but still hate to see ya leave. Pam that hates to see Dougs come and go  Undecided
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« Reply #14 on: May 12th, 2003, 10:26pm »
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Whats real and what ain't.
Whether yer takin it or leavin it...comin or goin.
Here's the scorecard on the present "General Posts" forum screen when I wrote this. This does not even take into account the amazing variety of grassroots research, and solid advice on the "med"forum...or the mountain of warm fuzzies at the "subhooters" corner.
 
There is a shitload here to take or leave.
Something fer everyone to love and hate.
Got yer yin and yang.
 
1 leavin
8 new comer 74supports
4 silliness lots of support
3question 1/2 fight,60 answers
1 old question 39 posts serious and not
2doctor info 8 supports
1 technical question 4 supports
6 various Mothers day
1 medical 8 supports
1 vent 40 supports
1 board condition vent lots of patter
2 greetings chat stuff
Dj concern 22 silliness
1 PF fuckeneh
1 CH book intro
1 almost war related post
1 person lonely for talk
1 reqest for prayers 41 posts
1 wierd non CH advice turned to fun
O2 site
3 silliness links (?i never opened them)11 replies
weather pictures 20 posts
1 CH Poetry
1 medical info and thanks degrade to silliness
1 birthday 13 happys
1hockey chat 33 posts
pain scale discussion 16 posts
 
I got almost 4 years here ....almost everyday....
looks the same to me...only more of everything.
 
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PS: Theres some CH sufferer right now who will find this board tomorrow. I know where I'll be.
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #15 on: May 12th, 2003, 10:45pm »
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DougL, I don't know you well, but if you have a problem with the board, I can kind of understand...sort of....
But what I don't understand is your leaving OUCH.  The message board and OUCH are not the same thing.
 
I probably am not saying this right, but I hope you will reconsider your membership in OUCH at least.
 
I better quit now, but I hope you understand what I am saying.
 
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« Reply #16 on: May 12th, 2003, 11:20pm »
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If you have been around here for a long time and still need an explanation of DougL's post, it's going to be very difficult to explain............and beyond my capabilities.
 
This board was created by a group of people with a very different mindset than exists here today. Yes, things change - often for the better - sometimes not.  
 
Support was always an important component (still is!) and very often involved phone calls between sufferers and supporters.  This still happens, but not to same degree. How many folks here have each others home phone number? I'm not knocking anyone - it's just not as personal now......
 
This board is a logical extension of OUCH, separate - but still connected at birth.  Does anyone remember seeing "Hmmmmmm" posted every other day as means to maintain focus?  
 
I'm as guilty as anyone, but look at the general apathy at OUCH.  What's the status of all the committees?  One tenth of one percent of the energy that gets expended here would go a long, long way in furthering OUCH.
 
OK, for me it just boils down to emotional level - it just doesn't feel right anymore - and THAT's my problem, not the board's problem.
 
As usual, Den made me stop and think  
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I got almost 4 years here ....almost everyday....  
looks the same to me...only more of everything.

You know what Den.....Yer right!
 
The difference is, we need to attract people back the same way they came here originally - with a little bit of decorum.
 
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #17 on: May 13th, 2003, 2:42am »
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(WARNING: Cliché coming up)
 
You cannot be the mighty oak, on this message board, the wind will blow you down. Rather; be like the willow that bends with the flow of the wind and lets it pass by, then rises up, once again, unscathed.
 
Why spend the time to bitch about the way things AREN’T? Deal with the way things ARE—and change it by active involvement. Retiring and Lurking will accomplish nothing, and only piss you off more. If you feel so strongly about this, become pro-active and make a difference.
 
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #18 on: May 13th, 2003, 3:24am »
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on May 13th, 2003, 2:42am, SommelierCH wrote:
(WARNING: Cliché coming up)
 
You cannot be the mighty oak, on this message board, the wind will blow you down. Rather; be like the willow that bends with the flow of the wind and lets it pass by, then rises up, once again, unscathed.
 
Why spend the time to bitch about the way things AREN’T? Deal with the way things ARE—and change it by active involvement. Retiring and Lurking will accomplish nothing, and only piss you off more. If you feel so strongly about this, become pro-active and make a difference.
 
FUCKENEH! We’re Clusterheads, we can do anything.
David J.
 
P.S. Our life is not easy. This board, is a reflection of our life.

 
 
 
Well put.
 
 
 
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Re: Just wanted to say Goodbye.
« Reply #19 on: May 13th, 2003, 5:01am »
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Doug, I don't know what is happened, nor I want to know.
But I remember you that we are 2000 people here, if someone don't love, appreciate you or want to fight, approx. 1990 didn't.
 
So, please, rethink to your decision.
 
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« Reply #20 on: May 13th, 2003, 5:13am »
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Doug, I'm sorry you feel the need to leave us. I hope you will reconsider and stick around. Even if you can make one person feel better on a day that may be at their lowest whether it be just by answering their post or messaging them or calling them, then I feel it has all been worth it.  
I dont know what it was like here a long time ago but I thank God I found this place along with all the people I know consider family.
Please stay,
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« Reply #21 on: May 13th, 2003, 8:10am »
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Sorry you felt it necessary to bail Doug.  Good luck to you in your endeavors.  Just remember where we are  when the shit gets bad and there is nowhere else to turn.  We'll listen to your rant, understand your pain and help you beat the beast once again.
 
 
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Dang it!!!    
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on May 12th, 2003, 3:26pm, DougL wrote:
Things around here just aren’t what they used to be.
 

 
How did things used to be?
 
on May 12th, 2003, 3:26pm, DougL wrote:

I have my own personal reasons for this decision.
 

 
Are these reasons going to be shared with the group, or will us new kids be kept in suspense?
 
on May 12th, 2003, 3:26pm, DougL wrote:

I will be lurking for now on.
 

 
Why?
 
on May 12th, 2003, 3:26pm, DougL wrote:

I have also removed my name as a member of OUCH.
 

 
What purpose will this serve?
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« Reply #24 on: May 13th, 2003, 12:22pm »
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Now lissen here, Doogle-ass. Kiss
 
I completely understand where you're coming from and very good points were made in this thread by Elaine, Linda, Marc, Den, etc. etc.  
 
No, the board isn't the same.  No, the feeling here is now 'big city' compared to the 'small town' where we all met years ago.  Yes, there are some things that go on here that are irritating.  But, ya know what?  That happened on the old board too (remember Waterdog?  Linda B?  Roll Eyes)  We survived that.  
 
I think it's come to a point where we now have to....for want of a better expression....pick our battles.  I'm learning to do that.  Yes, there are some things going on here that REALLY piss me off, but I just go kick a co-worker instead of posting here.  (OK, not really - just wanted to see if anyone is paying attention Tongue)  
 
The board has become an amazing thing...shit happens: shit gets resolved.  With or without everyone's participation as it was in the past.  There are just too many people here now, for everyone to be able to have their say anymore.  
 
Groups, cliques, friendships form.  'Tis the nature of a larger group.  Not everyone is EVER going to get along harmoniously all the time.  Just ain't gonna happen, honey.
 
Doug, I got an email yesterday from a supporter who's hitting the wall. She lives right here in Calgary and she was feeling really lost and alone, watching her hubby do the dance every night.  She was given my name by Bennie Sue (remember her? Smiley).  THAT email and the ensuing conversations we had really brought it all home for me today.  That, and things my twisted sister has been saying to me (even though she thinks I'm not listening to her Wink ...  It made me come back to the board again - I haven't checked in here for a number of days now.  I was at about the same point you obviously are.  
 
Doug, us old farts really DO have a responsibility to watch out for the new folks arriving here.  Remember what a bad point each of US was at when WE found ch.com?  But now that we have it and are a part of the family here, we get cocky and think everyone should be at the same speed we are.  Nope.    
 
Yes, we've done our time here.  Yes, we've talked about left-handedness, eye colour, sexual preference, beastiality (still paying attention? Smiley), imitrex usage, etc. etc. etc.  Ad nauseum, we have.  But...so what?  Yes, we were pioneers in those days and we were feeling like we'd finally found folks from our home planet.  Too cool, huh?  What a wonderful history we have. Smiley  
 
So, let's share our history Doug.  YOU are a very integral part of that history, Mr. Lutz.  We all learned how to spell from you.  Hey, is Cootie your little sister, mister?  
 
Stick around, kiddo - you never know when a fellow clusterhead will only find solace from talking to YOU, ok?
Don't hang up your boots just yet, ok?
 
Hugs,
your from your old ICQ coffee buddy.  Smiley
 
p.s.  did you change your email addy AGAIN?  I just tried to send this to you and it came back to me.  Mail me your new one?  pweeeaaase?  
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