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Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« on: Nov 21st, 2002, 1:20pm »
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My doc is having me try the generic form of Elavil called Amitriptyline.   Has anyone tried either?
 
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #1 on: Nov 21st, 2002, 1:57pm »
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I was on Elavil for awhile.  I would take it at night before bedtime.  It did a good job allowing me to sleep through the night without the beast, but I felt like I was wrapped in cellophane in the morning... almost like a nyquil OD type of feeling.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #2 on: Nov 21st, 2002, 1:59pm »
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I've never tried it but this is what webMD says about it
 
Amitriptyline
 
Brand names: Elavil, Endep, Vanatrip. Amitriptyline is in a class of drugs called tricyclic antidepressants. Amitriptyline affects chemicals in your brain that may become unbalanced and cause depression.
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #3 on: Nov 21st, 2002, 2:03pm »
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Is it just me or is there conflicting information.
 
Used for anti-depression but may cause depression?
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #4 on: Nov 21st, 2002, 2:08pm »
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SORRY in advance.  I am not the one with clusters, but I had been on Elavil before .. for a long time, 300 mg a day at bedtime.   I have Rheumatoid arthritis, and they gave it to me so that I could sleep.   It's also supposed to be an antidepressant.  But it didn't help with that.  I sure did sleep tho.  A lot.. many hours.  Many MUCH hours.
 
And I didn't like it.  It helped ya sleep, that's for sure.. but you do feel like sheeeeeit all day.. you feel drugged.   I was taking a pretty high dose.. I dont know what kind of dose they would use for clusters...
 
The reason I didn't like it is because you cannot think straight.  If you have a job where you have to think.. i wouldn't recommend it.  I have to crunch numbers all the time, and I found myself not being able to do simple math... math that I have done a bagillion times.  
 
I didn't think about it being the Elavil at all... and when I went to my doc.. i told him that I can't think straight, I can't concentrate, I cant remember anything.  He said "Yep, that's the Elavil.  Let's get you off of that."  So, I stopped taking it.. and can remember things, and I can concentrate, and can do my work now.  No one tells you of this "side effect" .. but if you do research on the internet.. you'll find that loss of concentration and short term memory is, in fact, a side effect.  I didn't do that until after the fact.. stupid me.
 
Now, I don't know if I have a right to tell you all of this, not being a clusterhead myself.. (just a supporter).. but I remember my experience with Elavil.. and I just thought I would share.
 
Hope if works for you!!
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 21st, 2002, 2:14pm »
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Echo... The loss of your hair is affecting your brain... The article says it helps control the chemicals that while imbalanced may cause depression... Not that is causes depression.
 
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 21st, 2002, 2:25pm »
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Yup.  Nope.  Didn't woik for Kimmy.  Doc kept insisting that it would, but - NOPE.  It didn't. ;D
 
But that's just me.  Good luck! Smiley
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #8 on: Nov 21st, 2002, 3:32pm »
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Blake took Elavil for a short time.   Like the others he did sleep.  However, it took most of his waking ours to come out of the dazed state and then it was time to take another dose.....hard to function on that drug for him.  
 
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 21st, 2002, 3:33pm »
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 I tried it years ago and it never did anything for me.
 
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #10 on: Nov 21st, 2002, 3:57pm »
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my experience with Elavil is the same as Slammy's. Good for sleep, felt like a drug hangover in the AM.
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #11 on: Nov 21st, 2002, 4:13pm »
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My GP once prescribed this for me to help me sleep.  Didn't work though.
 
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #12 on: Nov 22nd, 2002, 1:15am »
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I agree with Slammy...i used elavil about 16 years ago for chs..i was episodic then...it helped me sleep better at nite but made me feel like a zombie during the day..i was on 150mg....praying it will work for you...smiles, nancyc
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #13 on: Nov 22nd, 2002, 11:38pm »
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It was given to me years ago to try for my so called headaches (wasn't diagnosed ch at that time) Doc was convinced it would work, it didn't. It made me very tired all the time but didn't even touch the CH. Hope it works for you though.
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 23rd, 2002, 1:44am »
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Wast of time and money for me anyhoo.
 
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #15 on: Nov 23rd, 2002, 9:25am »
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I was on it, and Slammy's description of it is quite accurate, and nope it didn't work for me at all.  
 
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #16 on: Nov 23rd, 2002, 6:31pm »
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Noratryptaline didn't do squat for me either.  I think the neuro's go straight for the tricyclic anti-depressants because they want to believe we have migraines.  AT least that seems to be the case with the 3 different neuro's I've seen in upstate NY.
 
Also, the nor sent my resting heart rate into the 100's.  118 to be exact.  These meds are old meds with nasty side effects, so be on your toes and make sure you research your meds .... most doctors don't bother to do that for you.
 
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #17 on: Nov 25th, 2002, 10:13pm »
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WOW!  
 
I just got it prescribed today by my neuro, and after reading all of this begining to wonder if I should even take it. Nasty buch of side effects those.
 
but I suppose I should give it a try, can't be worse than the other stuff I'm takin' Roll Eyes I guess Roll Eyes
 
Says here its sometimes used for "chronic pain" which of course CH IS but from the rest of the posts here I can't imagine it works.
 
I'll let ya know real soon I have a feeling.
 
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Re: Elavil???  Anyone tried it?
« Reply #18 on: Nov 26th, 2002, 10:23am »
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I think there is a little confusion about tricyclics antidepressants. (Anyway I ask UELI to make corrections, if any to my text)
 
The tricyclic antidepressants block primarily the uptake of norepinephrine and also, to varying degrees, the uptake of 5-HT.
 
This means that the neuro do not give them to made you sleep, but to normalize the flow of serotonin.
 
Generally, they are not so effective, but sometimes they are. And, on the other hand, a neuro gives them without problem.... if they do nothing to CH...at least let you sleep a bit more... ;D
 
I tried them, and in my case they "destroyed" the circadian rhythm: I got attacks at hours I never had before, and viceversa. Globally..... no benefits!
 
Other words about another antidepressant, the seroxat (paroxetine)
 
 The paroxetine is the most potent inhibitor of 5-HT uptake,  This can cause a SEROTONIN SHOCK (my definition)  that can break the CH cycle. It was effective in some cases in Italy, and eeeerrr, I'm trying it now....
 
Don't cost so much, the trial lasts 7 days at 20mg/day ...and, if it functions..... the CH is gone!
 
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