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I need an honest response to this question.
« on: Nov 9th, 2002, 4:31pm » |
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Would you kill yourself before you got through a 10 hour Kip 10 cluster?
Thats the question.
.........................jonny
Let me add my 2 cents.......I would put my glock in my mouth and be done with it...........Theres no such thing as a 10 hour cluster!!!!!
"Thought was that I was being punished for something, that my children needed me and God was making me incapable of doing my job as a parent"
Someone kill me im laughing so hard
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Re: I need an honest response to this question.
« Reply #1 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 4:46pm » |
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Dunno. Would most prolly leave a bloody trail behind...........
The only time I suffered any where remotely similar to that was in the ER and they kept stickin me. Tried everything ya can imagine and I think the meds just combined to really make a bloody mess outa me. What DID happen (begin to end it lasted about 5 hours....?) was lotsa varying drug treatements both at home and at the er, which ultimately culminated in me being mighty sick. I threw up so bad (and still had the headache pain) that they gave me an enema to stop the vomiting.
All in all I was in ER about 4 hours. It was really fucked up, but after that I went to a wedding and actually hung out. I can't explain it to you. when the pain finally did go, was able to carry on, but to this day I have a hard time explaining what horror happened at the ER. So, when people say to me that ONE attack went over the edge, I tend to believe them. It happened to me - albeit few times in my cluster history, but I tell ya the times it did occur I will NEVER forget. It was unbelievably fucked up....What was it? What caused it? I duuno. But I KNOWS it did happen and it was directly related to the cluster headaches. My own opinion is that is was some sort of reaction to pain meds, which i won't go near now. And since I have avoided pain meds, mysteriously, so have those weird episodes lasting forever - seemed to vanish...............But, i ain't no doc and this is only MY PERSONAL observation................
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Re: I need an honest response to this question.
« Reply #2 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 4:49pm » |
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Wow..
I think that I am fortunate in that my worst hit, the last 5 years, brought me to my knees (literally), tears and all kinds of known and unknown "klingon" cuss-words, etc, hitting things (not with my head) like chairs and kitchen table - lasting for approximately 45 minutes 
Maybe that was a K-8.
You said that you wanted an honest answer - as for me if it got a lot worse than what I described above, well Jonny, I'm sad, but not embarassed, to say that I doubt that I am strong enough to handle a K-8 for a continuos 10 hour bout..
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 4:53pm » |
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I hear you Marty, 27 yrs chroninc and I know I would eat a bullet after three hours never mind ten, who the fuck can handle that but a Meegrainer?
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 4:57pm » |
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 5:00pm » |
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Damm Jonny I had to think about this, What a ****'n
question.. You need an honest answer.. Probably NO!
my tolerance would substain.
You did not say if you could fight with Demarol.
If there was such A thing as KIP 10 FOR 10HRS.
someone ask you this question??
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 5:01pm » |
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No.
I'd never kill myself over anything.
If I did, I'd go to hell and suffer the eternal Kip 10.
My worst attack, ever, hung around for about 3 hours being held to a Kip4 by meds. Then it blossomed into a 2 hour Kip10. Rolling around the bathroom floor, barfing, crying, why me-ing. It let up and I crawled to the bed and flopped spread eagle on my back. 15 minutes later, back it came for another hour. At the end of that one I was totally wasted.
Normally I go 1/2 hour to an hour now that I'm ancient.
10 minutes with O2 and trex.
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Re: I need an honest response to this question.
« Reply #7 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 5:03pm » |
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Let's take some of the edge off here, shall we..
27-years "chronic" - That's is an achievement considering your personal profile ;D ;D ;D
Then again.. according to mine, I'm 99 years old 
Just happy, I got my second gold star today.
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 5:09pm » |
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I lie alot Marty....LOL
Bob, spread eagle we can do without.
Question still is could you handle a Kip 10 for 10 hours.
Me thinks the toughest SOB on this earth could not.
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 5:15pm » |
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YOU simply cannot answer that kinda question until something happens to bring it home.
MY guess? No, ya wouldn't eat the Glock. Yu'd do the same thing I did, go to er and thrash about and get hit with meds and say FUCK a LOT, puke yur fucking (meegrain or WHATEVER! bloody guts out in a FUCKIN FIT and then, when it went away, ya'd CARRY ON! 
Is there a ten hour kip 10? I seriously doubt it. But I don't LMAO at anything I read here, cut after all, WHO THE FUCK DO I THINK I AM?????
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Re: I need an honest response to this question.
« Reply #10 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 5:16pm » |
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on Nov 9th, 2002, 4:31pm, jonny wrote:Would you kill yourself before you got through a 10 hour Kip 10 cluster?
Thats the question.
.........................jonny
Let me add my 2 cents.......I would put my glock in my mouth and be done with it...........Theres no such thing as a 10 hour cluster!!!!!
"Thought was that I was being punished for something, that my children needed me and God was making me incapable of doing my job as a parent"
Someone kill me im laughing so hard
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NO....but I may do myself in if I have to scroll back-n-forth to read the post that spawned this one.......I ain't goin' back THERE (to that post) again no matter WHAT......
c'mon .....MAGNUM......WTF is wit' dat? some kinda sick name ......
(sorry 'bout the multiple posts...i tink I deleted all the extra ones..... )
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 5:39pm » |
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ok , ok , I gotta respond to this and yes I am only episodic and yes this is relatively new to me. But judging from the amount of pain I've experienced so far, I doubt that one would have the strength to pull the trigger on a glock after ten hours of k-10 type of pain.
The trigger on "Winnie" my winchester 1200 is a real easy pull but if having that type of pain during a trap shoot disables me from firing at a level of I estimate k-6 or 7 I dont think I COULD off myself. Besides, I'd Probably miss anyway LOL!
And for the rest of you....yes, i do have a name for my shotgun (LOL!) she has served me well over the years.
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 6:11pm » |
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An interesting question, and I''ll cheat by saying that probably not...But if I were certain there would be lots of others, just like it in the offing, maybe I would.
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 6:28pm » |
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After 2 hours I had basically lost my mind and wasn't sure what was going on and have little memory except wanting to go to the stream and cool off. Ambulance squad said I was out of control until they put me on O2 and then couldn't believe how much I calmed down. PJB
I forgot to answer the question..............NO
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 7:01pm » |
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Hey Jonny in reply to your question, I to thought there's no way anyone could get through a 3 hr. 10. But I did in 1988 several times. Nearly jumped from the car into a bridge 2 times in a week. The peak lasted 1 week and it was to the e. r. every night after I had tried everthing else.
Then came Nov. 2001 and a new peak in the cycle that lasted 2 weeks . They lasted from 3 to 6 hrs. of the most trying times I've ever had.
After several very bad E.R vists my moral was at bottom and my wife found me on the rear deck with a 44 mag. in my mouth. It was taking everything I had In me to keep from pulling the trigger .
Then I stumbled on this site and a lot of post from from 1 very special lady (her intials are Nancyc) Well to end this I give many many thanks to this group and Nancy for giving a dam about me .
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 7:09pm » |
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I have had a 3 hour kip 10 that was only aborted at the hospital. Had I been in a place where I could not get to the hospital, I would think very hard about doing it in a 10 hour kip 10. I cannot even imagine.
I tell you what, listening to Charlie's backended political views drives me just about as close as a kip 10. LOL ;D
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 7:51pm » |
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Hmmmm - NO. I could not handle it, but most likely would NOT do myself. I would hope, at that point, that someone else would kill me. I've had looong 9-10's, probably because of med. rebounds, and I want to DIE- the only thing that keeps me going minute to minute is that it MIGHT end or that it will EVENTUALLY end, BUT the pain is too much - lowest one can go and be alive, I think (key...) - Jim R
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 8:08pm » |
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The thought of blowing my brains out has come at much less than a 10 hour Kip 10.
I cannot imagine going through the pain I already have.
Honestly, I think my chance of surviving a 10/10, with a loaded gun nearby, are pretty slim. My head hurts bad enough to end it. I have spent the best part of days at a time writhing in excrucitaing pain from back to back waves of attacks that left me in such shambles I can't believe I ain't already bit the bullet. I can't remember the pain from one attack specifically, its too great.
When I was 14 yrs old I suffered a double compound fracture of my left forearm. It hurt like hell, I could see the bones in my arm, but I don't really remember the pain.
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« Reply #18 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 8:43pm » |
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I simply can't imagine it Jonny, but I think that I would find a way to survive a few CH's like that.
But, if I knew that all of the rest were going to be the same................ I think that the "dark and scary" thoughts would gradually take over.
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I probably would and I'll tell you something else, there would be a whole path of bodies down the trail of anyone who even looked at me after the first two hours.
Thats all I got to say. I have to lay down now, I feel a 12 hour MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEgrain comin on.
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« Reply #20 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 9:40pm » |
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Ya did not know that wen i came hea i'd be such a needle in yur eye (or some equally uncomfortable spacde ;D)
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« Reply #21 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 11:24pm » |
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I don't think so. I don't believe suicide is the answer to anything and I don't believe I could ever do it. Having said this, I have wished I was dead during cycles in the past. I couldn't even imagine a 10 hr kip 10 but I guess I would just have to go to the er and force them to knock me out for a loooong time so I wouldn't have to deal with the pain.
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« Reply #22 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 11:49pm » |
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I don't think it's possible to have a 10 hour Kip10. For one thing, you'd pass out from exhaustion. I can't do anything at Kip10, let alone find my H&K, unlock it, load it and fire it... so I doubt I'd be a suicide possibility.
At its worst, CH turns me into an incoherent blathering mess. The last thing I can do is think about something as complicated as blowing my brains out.
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« Reply #23 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 11:55pm » |
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I don't know what I would do. ??? One thing I am sure of, I would definitely have some bloody knuckles and probably a bloody forehead from head butting the wall.
I have had several clusters to last a couple of hours and back off and I would think it was going away and then get hit again. This would repeat itself several times within a 10-12 hour time period somewhat close together, but I have never had a solid kip 10 for 10 hours straight.
If it did happen, I would probably make it through somehow. We all seem to acquire the strength needed to get through from somewhere, even though we feel like we couldn't take another second without dying from the pain.
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« Reply #24 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 11:56pm » |
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OK...Honest reponse you want ...YOU got it
First...as far as the migraines go....spent 1 week at max and wanted to end it all...and yes I have medical documentation to back it up...
Then came the wonderful world of the beast.....Would I off my self on a 10 hour Kip 10...YES...not only YES but HELLLLL YES!!!!!!!!
The only thing that would keep me from not offing myself would be Leesa.....If she was not around to hide everything that I could use I would be gone....I have gone through a full blown Migraine straight into a Cluster at a KIP 10 that hit on both sides and I kept smashing my head into the floor, the side of the toilet, and the tub trying to bust my head open so I would die. Yes I would have done it but that woman did everything she could to keep me from hurting myself.
Even now when a migraine hits I want to just end it because I know that a cluster is shure to follow and I will have to deal with both at the same time.
OK...I have rammbled on long enough but it has to end some how. THe human body can only deal with so much and 10 hours at a KIP 10 is just pushing it a little to far. Give me the gun, knife, or just a concrete wall and let me go!
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