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Need to yell
« on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 1:58pm » |
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Ok. If nobody minds me complaining for a minute or five, I need to vent. I hate it when things are like this. I am going downhill at the moment. I hate it when my parents argue. They don't do it a lot, and when they do they don't usually yell, they just get all pissed off at everyone. I hate it. I try to just get on with everything and not let things get me down, but when I am in an environment that is the opposite of that, I start losing my strength. You know when you just have one of those days where you wonder where your life is going? It is like you see the world through rose colored glasses up until you have to function in it by yourself. And I don't know about anyone else, but it was a huge dissapointment to me. It is all about money, no one gives a second thought to what is becomming of the youth of the nation. Or anyone else for that matter. Like the Columbine school shooting. I was watching a program on A&E about it, and they brought in a social worker, a therapist, a crime scene investegator, and few other people to study what had happened and how to prevent it in the future. They blamed the games they played,the movies they watched, etc. But not once did I hear them say something about a teacher or school official stopping the kids that made fun of them. It doesn't matter what movies you watch or what games you play, you aren't going to go shoot up a school without a reason. That makes me so mad. No one wants to take responsibility these days. It is all about the money. I don't know if any of you know who EMINEM is, but he won a music award the other night. I wanted to call up MTV and chew em out! And people wonder what is wrong with teenagers these days. You know what else is stupid? Murder is illegal and yet they have movies with murder in them, songs with murder in them, games with murder in them, etc. How dumb is that? I think it is sick. America is a great country as far as freedom goes. But what's the point of freedom if it is abused? People just don't know when to stop. Eminem sings about killing his mother, abusing his girlfriend, hating gays and lesbians, etc. Now I am not a lesbian, I don't happen to feel that way. But I have a great respect for gay people. It is hard to be different, and that is being extremely different. I do think people have the right to express their opinions, but when you are offending someone else it isn't right. And the fact that he can make cd's and say all of these things is unbelieveable. People feed on hate and anger to make excuses for their bad decisions. And by the music industry to support him, it is telling kids it is ok to do the things he is singing about. It just makes me mad. You wonder how much of a difference you can really make with all of this negetivity in the world. Ok. Off with my head! I wish. Tomorrow is a new day right?
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #1 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 2:18pm » |
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Ok chill out.
So called stars like emineme? although I have heard of him, won't be around in 5 years. You will.
Keep your own standards and don't drop them for anyone.
Be yourself and don't fall for all the crap the media says is normal.
PFDAN
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Dear Night,
You are very mature for your years. Your parents should be very proud of you.
Everyone argue's once in awhile. No biggie - it's healthy and gets all the junk out instead of keeping it inside and letting it fester until things are worse than they really are.
I happen to agree with you 100% about EMINEM. The guy should be taken out behind the woodshed and have his mouth washed out with soap. I mean what kind of sick mind does that guy have and to praise and award him for it is absolutely criminal in my mind. My company was asked to fly him privately to Europe last year. When we found out who it was we refused. I might be old fashioned but that's the way I was raised.
You seem to have a good head on your shoulders and the right perspective on life. Keep it up and never compromise your values.
Tomorrow is another day..........
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Like I said.
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #4 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 2:26pm » |
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Good on ya! Yes, my parents are proud of me. And my moms best friend is having problems with her neice that is living with her, so my mom is thankful to have gotten stuck with me. I have good parents also. I think it was kind of an even deal.
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #5 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 2:30pm » |
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Hi Night Owl. I agree it is good to vent every so often. Parents normally will have points of disagreement and even argument. This is natural as long as the disagreement isn't destructive or divisive and there is healthy respect among the parties. Sometimes disagreement can be healthy for a relationship.
I sympathize with your feelings of disgust at the overall lack of responsibility pervading so many of the modern social issues. There is lots of finger-pointing and not enough humans accepting responsibilities. I would say that what you are feeling is not abnormal, I've felt it myself many times and at age 31, still do. I remember the time (actually many times) I went from 'rose-colored glasses to the real world'. It was a rude awakening for me and was indeed disappointing, but I became wiser. It's what I call 'The Horrified Look Around'. It is that part of life that is initially appalling but must ultimately be navigated.
I like your recent posts, they have been logical and real. Humanity needs people who can turn thier moral outrage into something constructive. Please continue to contribute.
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Ya know what Night - go tell them that - we parents enjoying hearing it once in awhile.
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #7 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 2:39pm » |
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Thankyou. It helps when you talk to people who will listen. Or read. I realize it is normal to argue. And that is fine, but I hate it when they are snitchy at me because they are angry at each other. And you know what else? They are the most stubborn people I have ever met in my life! Neither one of them wants to talk to the other first! It is so irritating! That's ok, things will be fine in about five minutes. LOL.
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I gotta laugh............believe me when I am in a bad mood I am not very nice to anyone!!!! Sort of goes with the territory.
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As far as no one wanting to talk first. Again - I need to calm down before I can be rational - and that sometimes can be weeks. - LOL
Just a stubborn scot!
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #9 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 2:45pm » |
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Once again Night, you are far too wise for your age. I do not in any way see that as negative, it's just very unusual to find a teenager who has gained wisdom along with intelligence. Your point is very well put forth, I would just add one more thing to it. Parents. Please don't blame video games, movies, or any other form of external entertainment or motivation. Those boys in columbine (I had the misfortune of watching it live - which I didn't appreciate - but hey freedom the press right?) had parents that made 6 figure incomes, and the one boy had his garage FULL of the stuff they planned to use at the school. Where the hell were that kids parents? The problem in my opinion is not that the music is there, or the games are there or the movies, it's that the parents today don't seem to care enough to monitor what their children are doing. My kids aren't allowed to watch a new tv show (cartoon or otherwise) unless I see the show first. A classic example was dragonball Z - as far as I could see the only thing that show provided was violence for no reason. Parents need to involve themselves in their childrens lives, keep communications open, I talk constantly with my 8 and 10 year old about what if scenarios....what if a friend asks you to smoke a cigarette? What if a boy asks you to engage in sexual activities? What will you do? What if your friends ask you to do drugs or drink? What will you say? Clark and I work very hard to keep that communication ongoing so that it's not a one time discussion, so that our kids will be able to come to us with problems. We want our children to respect life, to see it as the highest value and that they have no right to harm or hurt another life by exercising their right to happiness. I might be doing it wrong, but if so, I will have done my best to raise children that are well adjusted and respecting teens and adults. I want them to see us as their friends and parents when they get older.
Night, time will pass, and you have a good head on your shoulders, my parents used to fight alot, and it is very hard to deal with, just remember that you are smart and you are wise, and you are above that petty behaviour if you choose to be.
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #10 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 2:49pm » |
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on Sep 2nd, 2002, 2:45pm, ChristineL wrote:
I gotta laugh............believe me when I am in a bad mood I am not very nice to anyone!!!! Sort of goes with the territory.
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As far as no one wanting to talk first. Again - I need to calm down before I can be rational - and that sometimes can be weeks. - LOL
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Oh man, not another one!!! LOL I too am from a scottish background and as I've been told too many times "Damn you are stubborn!" LOL
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 2:52pm » |
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Sounds like you are doing a great job.
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Owl, you remind me of myself at your age, and if it's any consolation, I turned out alright  (SHADDAP in the diaper section!!) Anyhow, even if you don't think there's a damn thing you can do about all the crap going on in the world, just remember, there will always be a little kid watching you. You will unknowingly guide them into their future, by being their role model.
You show a lot of insight, and determination. Try to remember, if life's not going the way you want it too, you have the power to change the way you perceive it. Just a little thought...
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #13 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 2:58pm » |
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The sun still rises and sets regaurdless of who's watching.
I just keep telling myself.
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Hey night owl. Keep those standards up. If you disagree with the songs eminnem writes then just say so ... the next time you hear a song that you don't agree with even when you are surrounded by friends that like it .... just say "you know .... really don't agree with the lyrics". It pays in life to say what you think ... even if only one person agrees with you, you know that you have been true to yourself and that in the end is all that matters. You are truly an amazing teenager. Such values for someone so young. Your parents must have done something right or you wouldn't have the values that you have ........ sometimes parents just don't agree .......and you know what else ..........sometimes its just hard to pay the bills .......and therefore money does become an issue. Keep you chin up, keep your values, and keep loving the people that blessed you with them ..... you will do well in life ........ I see it coming !!!!!
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #15 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 3:09pm » |
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Night, have you ever seen the movie Pay it Forward?
If not watch it. It only takes one person to start things. One person to stand up and help, and then maybe that person will help another and so on. When BILL_L won the auction for the portable O2 tank, he donated it to me....he helped me, and in turn, I'm trying to help OUCH by raising money, and I will take his kindness and pay it forward. One person can make a difference, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You might make all the difference to another teen friend in what path they choose later. I've had people come up to me long after highschool and say "if it hadn't been for you.....etc"
Never underestimate the power of your personal values and never let others compromise them
Your parents should be proud, I'm not even your parent, I'm just a person on a message board, and I'm proud, and you've given me a little hope that maybe the next generation WILL be smarter and better.
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #16 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 3:18pm » |
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Thanks. Yes, I have seen that movie. I love it. I also love the movie Life As A House. Everyone should see it. Now that we are on the subject of entertainment, has anyone heard the song "Fast Car" by Tracy Chapman? It tells a good story.
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #17 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 3:29pm » |
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Hey Night? I just wanted to say a Big THANKS! us parents need that reminder every so often. We get so caught up in the "taking care of" and the "responsibility" that we can forget to observe and listen to the gifts our children offer up.
Your parents are as much a reflection of you as you are of them. all you can ever be is the man (or woman) in the mirror. Keep your heart full. And know that your parents' hearts are most likely "fuller". Be patient with them
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #18 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 5:12pm » |
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Anytime.
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #19 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 6:57pm » |
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first of all eminem's a punk second ,i hope my daughter turn's out like u owl!! ...............2late
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #20 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 7:32pm » |
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Night,
Well said!! You are wise beyond your years..and no matter what....always be true to yourself.. you will never go wrong...
Huggs
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Hey Night Owl
If I ever adopt a kid I'm putting in an application to get you.
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #22 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 9:05pm » |
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Why thankyou. Glad to be of some assistance.
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Takes courage to wear your heart on your sleeve.
It was a good post.
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Re: Need to yell
« Reply #24 on: Sep 2nd, 2002, 10:19pm » |
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Who said that our youth are going downhill? Great post and great replies. By the way, I am not stubborn, just commited to not bending easily ;D
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