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Hey Ueli, come and play
« on: Aug 21st, 2002, 7:33am »
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Just me and you
 
So tell us again in laymans terms what Your Theory is?  
 
If you're able ...  
 
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C'mon ... laymans terms so every one can understand, even Boob
 
The rest of you stay out
 
In the interests of benefit to the spectators I'll only respond the medical stuff in your posts ... feel free to mouth off about me personally but I'll just respond to the medical stuff
 
Why do I get the feeling he's going to chicken out?
 
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 8:16am »
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Take it to email.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 8:31am »
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You tell em Don!!!!  
 
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Re: Hey Ueli, come and play
« Reply #3 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 9:54am »
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Hmm Interesting.
 
I do not know you Danny boy, but I have a few things to say to you.
 
Firstly, you do not own this board and therefore have no right to ask people to remove their posts. We still operate under democratic rule in the US and UK and freedom of speech is paramount.
 
Secondly, I am unaware as to what problem you have with Ueli, whatever it is wouldn't Email or a private chat room be the best place to discuss it?
 
Regarding medical knowledge i.e you vs Ueli, I too have a reasonable amount of knowledge as to the aetolgy of CH and its prognosis and current research.
 
I am however not a neurologist, neither are you.
 
Ueli trys his best to offer support to people on this board with the knowledge and personal experiences he has gained as a long term CH sufferer, THAT IS WHAT THIS BOARD IS HERE FOR.
 
May I suggest that you go to medical school, qualify, then do a further 3 years learning neurology, then a few years in practice, then you'll know more than Ueli.
 
I have read all your posts recently and some are very impessive, however, if the likes of Professor Goadsby and say the Mayo clinic behaved like you wish to do with Ueli, where would medical research into CH be?
 
Communication and the sharing of ideas and theories is what we should be doing, not conducting some sort of I know more than you do war.
 
We are all amatuers, we suffer this awful condition and some of us know a little about it. We do not know it all.
 
Can we please get back to supporting each other.
 
PFDAN
 
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ps This message stays unless DJ removes it.
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Re: Hey Ueli, come and play
« Reply #4 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 10:04am »
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Just thought I'd say HI! to SteveY, a newbie, BEFORE he gets his patty whacked.
HI! SteveY.
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Re: Hey Ueli, come and play
« Reply #5 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 10:15am »
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Remember that Free, On the House, 'Shut Up Don' that you offered me, ... mind if take it now?
 
I'd also appreciate it if you guys would remove your posts from this thread so that we can hear Ueli's explanation with out degenerating into the ususal flaming and name calling
 
Just me,  Just him,  Just Medicine
 
C'mon ... remove them ... (Please SteveY?)
 
Is honour dead? Men had duels for good reason.
 
C'mon DJ, put in that fighting conrner so we don't upset the kids
 
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 12:49pm »
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Oh Dannyboy,
 
Do you really thing I am wasting my time by engaging in a pissing contest with you ???
 
on Aug 21st, 2002, 10:32am, dannyboy wrote:

I'd say that ...
The extra-cranial structures (outside the brain) of the head, neck and face eg muscles, arteries, nerves etc can contribute as input factors into cluster headache pain


Dannyboy, you can repeat this bullshit another 100 times, nobody is going to believe it. As your dad is decompressing this extracranial artery to treat migraine, you try to involve it in any type of headache, just in an attempt to sucker the unwary.
The above quote is a nice example of the medical knowledge of Dannyboy: extracranial means outside the cranium (also known as the skull; for Danny, that is the hard bony shell just under your scalp). An extracranial structure is certainly outside the brain, but can we trust a guy who doesn't make a difference between inside and outside of the skull?  
 
Dannyboy, in your more than 150 posts you never made a single valid contribution towards the understanding or treatment of clusterheadaches. Quite in the contrary, you 'medical knowledge' does nothing than confuse people. Therefore, it would be time to move on. Why don't you go and pester migraine sites, there you would find many more potential customers for your dads business.
 


 
Don, if you didn't like the title of the thread, why did you open the post?
 
Debbie, SteveY is by no means a newbie. His post count is so low because he doesn't feel compelled to add a clever line or two to every thread.
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 12:57pm »
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Dannyboy,
 
I agree with Don - if this is going to be a personal thing then it should kept as such.
 
And Steve, welcome and very well put, you rock!!!!!!!
 
By the way, no one except DJ and the original poster can remove posts and no one should be asking us to do that either.
 
Who do you think you are Dannyboy anyway?  
 
This site is for cluster sufferers and supporters.  Simply go away.
 
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Re: Hey Ueli, come and play
« Reply #8 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 1:28pm »
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Slammy's turn!
 
You guys kill me!   ;D
 
Slammy's rant is that all the other posts (outside Ueli and Danny) is like  someone walking up to two people who are arguing on the street corner and butting in.  Both people arguing stop long enough to tell the outsider to butt out!   Cheesy
 
Both Ueli and Dannyboy have a right to their opinions in here, and they both are passionate about that.  I don't subscribe to Danny's point of view, however, in Danny's defense, he has posted several times on his efforts to help provide imitrex at affordable costs to those who needed it.
 
I don't mind sitting back and watching those two "duke" it out, the "others"  ought to do the same.
 
SHO!
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 1:39pm »
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It's more like a mouse calling the cat out. If it's supposed to be private and no one else responds why was it done on the board and not in e-mail?
 I don't really care one way or another. I just wanted to post to this thread because danny doesn't want me to.
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Re: Hey Ueli, come and play
« Reply #10 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 1:56pm »
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on Aug 21st, 2002, 10:15am, dannyboy wrote:

I'd also appreciate it if you guys would remove your posts from this thread so that we can hear Ueli's explanation with out degenerating into the ususal flaming and name calling
 
Just me,  Just him,  Just Medicine
 
Danny

 
The only circumstance under which I will remove any post on this thread will be through a direct request of DJ.  If you want to have duel with just you Ueli and medicine then I suggest you do it in a private forum not a public forum and then try to tell the rest of us to butt out.  Hono(u)r among men is equal on both sides.  If you wish a private battle, do it in a private format.  If you wish for public input from others on this MB then continue to post publicly, otherwise, Lead, follow or get the fuck out of the way.
 
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 2:20pm »
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I think  i'll just sit back with Slammy and watch (Slammy, pass me another brew) the fun, Ueli can handle the boy just fine.
 
I got a C-note on Ueli.
 
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Re: Hey Ueli, come and play
« Reply #12 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 2:33pm »
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on Aug 21st, 2002, 1:56pm, catlind wrote:

 
..., otherwise, Lead, follow or get the fuck out of the way.
 
Cat

 
 
Oh Cat... you're just a fuckin laugh riot!  ;D
 
I can't put a C note on Ueli... The "line"  is off the board in Vegas!   Cheesy
 
(passing a Sam Adams to Jonny!)
 
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 2:38pm »
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Whew! Danny had me going for awhile. Some of his stuff was beginning to make sense. With these last few, he's restored my faith in crackpots.  They never go away but also, they can be a source of some entertainment.
 
I know little about CH and its machinations but I’ pretty damn sure that your insistence of an “extra-cranial” (Stay out of your daddy‘s library) component of CH exists only in your mind. Too bad, because if true, CH would likely be easier to handle.  
 
What does it take for you to understand that the only relationship between cluster headaches and migraines is that they are in the head?  What is so hard about this?  
 
Shut the fuck up about removing posts.  Ours aren’t the problem.
 
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 2:49pm »
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Charlie, may I?
 
Crotchity, potty-mouthed, pun slingin', them's fightin words, funny as hell ole Charlie (who I just love to pieces)
 
And Ted - LMAO!!!  
 
And Jonny - I'll put an F sharp up for Danny
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« Reply #15 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 2:56pm »
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I wasn't going to get into this but....or should I say butt...
 
Wouldn't extracranial input in fact point more directly to trigeminal neuralgia which can be triggered by touching the face?  Ueli? Am I going in the right direction here?
 
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« Reply #16 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 6:51pm »
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kick his ass U!!!!!!!, i'm in your corner                         .............2late
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 22nd, 2002, 12:47am »
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Great having Georgia back.  No one is safe now.  I could never get away with much with her around.  Roll Eyes
 
Thanks Georgia but your kind words make me wonder if you're not losing your edge.   ??? Smiley
 
Watchful waiting here.   Cool
 
Really dull as they make 'em old Charlie
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 22nd, 2002, 3:23am »
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Sorry, Charlie. I guess I am a little dreamy eyed these days.  
 
Now shut the fuck up punk ass before I kick your teeth in.  Kiss
 
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« Reply #19 on: Aug 22nd, 2002, 6:37am »
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Danny you homo. I don't really dislike you oranything.
But you are about worthless as steam off wildebeast dung and as annoying as the little gnats that swarm it.  I think I'd slap you down just 'cause you act like a little girl.
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« Reply #20 on: Aug 22nd, 2002, 9:10am »
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Ueli,
 
RE your quote ... "Do you really thing I am wasting my time by engaging in a pissing contest with you" ...  
 
Does that mean that you've chickened out before the first bell in which case my prediction is correct and Georgia wins...?  
 
I think there's more to you than that Ueli ... I'm not trying to make an idiot out of you, I just Want to understand
 
Its about understanding isn't it? ... thats why we're here ... Understanding Clusterheadaches
 
Deffenition:-
By "heat or cold therapy" I mean the various ways that people on this board use objects or substances to apply either heat or cold to their heads faces or necks in order to get some form of relief, no matter how small.
 
Qusetion:-
In your opinion, by what mechanism does Heat or Cold therapy affect the pain of cluster headaches in some people?
 
Alternatively are you suggesting that: -
 
- Heat or cold therapy provides no relief, other than psychological, on the pain of cluster headaches in any cases?  
 
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« Reply #21 on: Aug 22nd, 2002, 9:15am »
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Does that mean that you've chickened out before the first bell in which case my prediction is correct and Georgia wins...?  

 
Dejavue - I think I've heard this before.  Yep it was in 1st grade.
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 22nd, 2002, 9:33am »
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HMMMMMMMM..........let me see now.
 
dannyboy post something he wishes no one to respond to but Ueli??......OK......so why put it here?
 
don is a smart man to say it should be through email; as is SteveY with his intelligent post.
 
dannyboy asks us  "PLEASE" to remove our post?......begging or what?.....don't think it'll happen anyway.
 
Ted's wanting to post b/c we were asked not to...... ;D, hey.....that's why I'm here!
 
jonny's the man being all cool about it.......b/c he know's Ueli can handle it
 
AND CHARLIE  Shocked, SUCH LANGUAGE!!
     
and that's my 5 cents worth (not 2 cents b/c I personally think we should no longer have to mess with them lousy pennies and have the nickel as our smallest denomination of coin....LMAO)
 
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« Reply #23 on: Aug 22nd, 2002, 9:37am »
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but EDNA!  What am I gonna use to pay my daughter?? NICKELS?? OMG!  She thinks pennies are actually WORTH something!! ;D
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« Reply #24 on: Aug 22nd, 2002, 12:25pm »
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Dannyboy, if you want to claim the title of the one who can piss farthest, I don't mind, you have earned it honestly.
 
If you want to learn the basics about medicine, why don't you turn to your daddy's clinic? I think the doorman there is able to fill in your most fundamental gaps.
 
If you want to talk further about clusters, why don't you arrange to watch a clusterhead during an attack? Then you wouldn't no longer ask silly questions why clusterhead grasp to the most desperate, weird distractions during an attack. Until you've made that experience you have nothing lost on this message board.
 
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