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Head trauma correlation
« on: Aug 20th, 2002, 10:56am » |
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As a youngin of about 12 years old, I had a serious, serious concussion. The left side of my forehead filled with fluid and was swelled up at least 2" from my skull. My mom said it looked like a half a grapefruit was stuck to the left side of my forehead. Still to this day, the left side of my forehead is numb (The wife said the numbness traveled to my brain)  ain't she sweet?
Actually I don't have a brain, It was removed right after I said "I DO" HeHe (Oooh, I just got slapped in the back of the head!) 
Anyway, maybe this is a dumb question, and it might have been answered before. But is there any correlation between that and the CH's? Both are on the same side and the only reason I'm asking is that no one else in my family has a history of these Goddamn things.
My wife gets headaches all the time, she gets them right after I wink at her!  (Paybacks are a bitch) ;D
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #2 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 12:22pm » |
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If you think clusters are purely the result of a deformed hypothalamus, then probably not ... could a blow to the head deform a hypothalamus? I don't know...?
If you think clusters can be influenced by input factors outside the brain eg muscles, arteries, nerves etc etc of the head face and neck, then definately.
It just depends which fence you sit on
But I don't think anyone Really Knows the answer to your question one way or another
Except of course those folk that got a crack on the head and their clusters started straight away ... not much you could do to convince Them that they're wrong unless you had some Proof
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #3 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 3:01pm » |
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on Aug 20th, 2002, 12:22pm, dannyboy wrote:
If you think clusters can be influenced by input factors outside the brain eg muscles, arteries, nerves etc etc of the head face and neck, then ....
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #4 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 3:19pm » |
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At age 10 was hit by car and cracked head pretty bad. At around 13 began with the clusters. Are they related? I dunno. I've thought about it too.
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #5 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 6:15pm » |
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i've never been crushed in the cranium,still get wicked ch .................2late
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #6 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 6:58pm » |
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Dave was in a motorcycle accident shortly after started getting CH... hmmmmmm probably don't cause it completely might have a little to do with it.
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #7 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 7:06pm » |
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The question "When your clusters first started, had you received any medical trauma within the previous year? (i.e. head trauma, surgeries, etc.)" was answerd as follows:
| Yes | 1272 | 11.6% | | No | 8481 | 77.2% | | Don't remember | 1240 | 11.3% |
This, and much more can be found under the button  on the left.
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #8 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 9:26pm » |
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One time I pushed one of those buttons and guess what?
I learned something and didn't have to ask one of those same questions that has been asked 86 bazillion times.
I also got a headache 3 days later. Button pushing causes headaches. I never pushed another button. I'd rather remain ignorant
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #9 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 9:35pm » |
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JIMBO
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Your brain was removed right beforeyou said I DO.
Otherwise......well.........you get the point. ;D
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #10 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 9:39pm » |
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May have been asked 86 bazillion times but if your new to this site, you wouldn't know that or the answer now would you.
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #11 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 9:50pm » |
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Hhhmmmm???????
I wonder how many times Ben Franklin, and Al Einstein, and Chris Columbus, and the gang, got stepped on for asking their same old unanwered questions over and over and over and over......
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #12 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 9:57pm » |
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Here we go again.
On the left side of the screen is a row of buttons.
The top button says 'new visitors' and is yellow colored (different the most of the rest) for a reason. So it will stand out from the rest and maybe grab attention.
Under that button there is a list that explains the purpose of this board and how this board can be used to best advantage.
The FIRST item on the list to look at is 'Research the site'.
Posting your first message is the FIFTH item.
For anyone that can't find the buttons on the left side of the screen, click on the address below.
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/newvisitors.html
If Ben, Al and Chris asked the same question 86 bazillion times and never got an answer (that would be an unanswered question) maybe they should do a little research on their own or change the question.
2 days ago I tried to help answer a question on the general board about oxygen. I posted the address(s) of where to go on the web for pictures and information. Within one hour another person posted the very same question on the meds board. I posted the same address(s) and information there. Less than an hour later the same questions came up again from another person on the general board.
Do you see where I'm going here?
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #13 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 10:10pm » |
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And for all you newbies,
also on the buttons to the left, button #20, to be exact, entitled "about this site"
the following is mentioned:
This site is NOT about money!!! It's about sharing, it's about learning, it's about knowing we are not alone. Personally, just knowing there are others out there who suffer from this terrible curse, and I'm not crazy, is absolutely priceless
(BobG must have missed this one while researching)
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #14 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 10:32pm » |
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;D I even took the survey 3 months ago Does that mean we're not allowed to share anymore on the subject?
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Re: Head trauma correlation
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #16 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 10:53pm » |
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This is NOT about sharing. It's about some people that are too damned lazy to do anything for themselves.
Example: If someone has a question about cluster traits, wouldn't the most obvious thing to do be push the 'cluster trait' button first?
Or if someone wants to know about OUCH, logic tells me to push the 'OUCH wesite' button. Not put up a "What's OUCH?" question.
If the person's own research doesn't satisfy their questions then by all means post the question. But, if the answer is right under you nose and you're too damn lazy to even look at it then I don't think you really want an answer.
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #17 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 11:39pm » |
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Hell Bob. I'll stick with you on this one. After all, you know how much I hate an argument. But seriously. How did that get warped? the site says no money is being asked for and it's about sharing and learning. So Bob gave three different people the info, uh, sorry... Sharing that info for someone to learn and he never asked for money. There is a sense of welcoming yourself by not saying "I'm spoiled and lazy. I have a question that was asked 20 minutes ago. Please tell me the answer so I don't have to look two posts down that answer my question.
We have shared and we have learned. For those of you new at this learnig thing, start with looking at the very page you're posting at. If right on that page you see the same topic you have a question on, read it and get your answer. If the answer isn't there, try the search button. If you can't find it, ask. But don't just walk up, neglect all the places you CAN get info from, and just ask the question. Odds are good it was asked 5 minutes before you got here.
By the way, has this subject ever come up before?
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #18 on: Aug 20th, 2002, 11:52pm » |
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You can show the donkey the water trough, but you can't force it to drink.
I don't like it if people make shoddy statistics out of a few cases. Like our restless legged Australian, who proclaimed that 43.8% of all clusterheads suffer from RLS. When asked if this was sort of an official number, he said, no but 7 answered with Yes and 9 with No. And he assumed that for the remaining 1943 (less 16) registered user of this board the distribution was the same, duh.
This thread was on the best way to produce a similar skewed statistics. Therefore, I gave some more reliable data. And of course, I gave the link to the source of these data - and get bashed for that. Only scam artists like Dannyboy make grandiloquent claims, but take every precaution to blur the trails to the so-called source, as otherwise their scam could be exposed too easily.
BTW Debbie, Benjamin Franklin, Albert Einstein and Christoph Columbus were clever people. They certainly never ask questions that had been answered already dozens of times, in the contrary, their quest was to investigate unknown fields.
Any questioner on this board should show that she/he has at least spent 5 minutes in searching if the answer is not already here. Anyone not doing a bit of research of his own is in my opinion a lazy bastard, even worse it is an extremely arrogant attitude if they expect the valets to present them everything on a silver platter. Next they stick out their ass after pooping and expect us to wipe it clean.
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« Reply #19 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 1:36am » |
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will someone please wipe my ass clean?
And don't think I am just asking haphazardly.. I searched the archives good and hard while I was pooping to see if someone had already answered my question...I couldn't find anywhere where that had been asked or answered before, so I guess that makes it a perfectly valid, unarrogant, non-lazy ass bastard question. I am just not sure how far to stick my ass out. A little help?
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« Reply #20 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 2:14am » |
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Ahhhhhh... Now this is what i miss. When I first started reading the posts on this MB forever ago (a few months ireal time), one of the top post was someone complaining about having to answer the same question more than once when the answer was somewhere buried on this site or on the OUCH site. This post makes me wonder the same thing that that post had... If you don't like answering the question, why did you?
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #21 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 5:39am » |
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Aaah Ueli ... the Hitler of medical opinions ... he's right folks I'm a scam artist ... just a very bad one thats all.
I tell ya, what OUCH costs me in donations I Should start a scam of sorts ... so far ... including plane tickets ... OUCH has cost me about almost $400 over a year and a half and I haven't made a cent.
And to to add insult to injury some jerk has disappeared with the worlds most expensive mug!!
Ueli, Blasting Rodger the Restless Leg Dodger for his impromptue statistical inference techniques is just another of your inexcusable outbursts of anger at newbies, different medical opinoins, Tony G's, etc
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #22 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 7:21am » |
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If all I needed were statistics and medical info then I guess I could just delete the MB from my saved sites.
Not about sharing?
The subjevct claearly says Head Trauma Correlation. If repetitive questions bothers someone to this degree, why do you open the post?
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #23 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 7:45am » |
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Ok, here goes...
Daniel, leave Tony out of this discussion, he is NOT around at all to defend himself, much less breathe!
Second, to ME, it is common courtesy to try and find the answer yourself, before asking the MB questions. If you cannot find the answer (I know how deep one has to dig to find them sometimes), please state just that. Say; "I did a search on "insert word here" but was very difficult in finding", then state your question, and apologize if it's been answered before.
Just trying to help so new folks don't get the brunt end of the stick.
PFDAN...
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Edited to add: that it was NOT a problem for me to obtain those links. I don't mind doing the search, it makes me feel like I'm giving something back to ch.com. Just please try to remember, that this site has been around for some time, (also, not everyone is LIKE me  ), and the answer you seek, is usually just a click away...
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Re: Head trauma correlation
« Reply #24 on: Aug 21st, 2002, 8:13am » |
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Bottom line
When I see an edict the web master of this site stating "there can be no no repetitive posts or questions" then I will back him 100%
Until then, if you know the question is repetitive, then just dont open the damn post.
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